Okay folks, help me out with this one

@NerdyPotato I'm not so sure. We have resources here now that we won't have on Mars. Now of course we are eventually going to run out of mineable and drillable resources, that's a given. But like, wood, paper, sand, glass, aluminum, steel, cardboard, plastic, there are a lot of things we can gather and then create from what we've gathered. You can't do that on Mars. It's a barren planet.

We would first need to establish a way to survive, a way for a mass population to survive, and if we did figure out how to survive there, we would have to take resources with us. The only problem is those resources are non-replenishable. Let's say that we've done everything right, millions of people now live on Mars, I am pretty sure we will be transferring resources from Earth to Mars. Sun explodes no more Earth, no more resources to Mars. Unless we've advanced so far past that, but I highly doubt it.

Until greed, hate and power no longer exist, we won't achieve any of these illusions of grandeur.

@twiigss oh yes, it will be near impossible to live on Mars without resources from earth. But from what I understand it's not about surviving the explosion of the sun, but building a new place when the earth becomes inhabitable. Then it may remain possible to mine the earth, so we can still use its resources even when we can't live here anymore.

@NerdyPotato I do see your point on it all. But because of how we survive, we need a constant stream of resources to be able to live. The other problem I just thought of... if we're living on Mars, where do we put all of our trash? Humans generate a ton of trash, I don't think on Mars we're going to have paved roads and cars and trucks and whatnot.

There's a lot of logistical things that I just don't see working for us. Now I am a pessimist, but, maybe if humans can get to Mars and make it work that would be great, I just don't see it happening.

@twiigss I don't think the plan is to transfer all 8 billion people, but to save just a few hundred. The resources needed for those are limited enough that they could be transported from earth if technology continues to advance.

@NerdyPotato That makes sense at this point in time to just send a few hundred. Which I thought I had read in one of the articles I usually peruse. But, I'm sure that if humans reproduce on Mars, they will be born with different genetics than people on Earth. It is a cool topic though. I just keep thinking, imagine if in 1950 we were as technologically advanced as we are right now, imagine where we would be in 2024.

@twiigss evolution may go in a different direction when other skills become more important, but that won't happen in the span of a few generations.

@NerdyPotato Oh. Well it'll be interesting for sure. None of us will be around to see the end result.