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And that should be your foreign aid gone.
DesiDudeJ0426-30, M
@DesiDudeJ04 That money should be being used for your Nation's huge poverty, not a space programme.
DesiDudeJ0426-30, M
@DesiDudeJ04 Great, so stop taking aid, halt the space programme until these issues are sorted and then be proud of your achievements!
DesiDudeJ0426-30, M
@DesiDudeJ04 Great so you don't need it, glad we agree 馃憤
InOtterWordsF
@BritishFailedAesthetic i really do think you should stop watching GB news and look at the facts itself.

I could be facetious and bring up the amount the British stole from India but instead i will state that the UK government has given hardly any aid to India since 2015. The government has, however, invested in a large number of businesses in recent years.

India should be very proud of their space programme, and Britain should be proud that they have a good relationship with the country that is not tarnished by the crimes they commited during colonisation
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InOtterWordsF
@BritishFailedAesthetic i made the comparison only because it was the same tripe that their own presenters made.
As i suggested maybe look into the foreign aid that is supposedly fiven to india and understand how it is used.

Also take a few minutes to understand what your opinion is of india... it is a thriving country with the fastest growing economy, it is a developing nation that is still recovering from the effects of colonialism.

I value my life in the UK but i am also uncomfortably aware that the privileged life i lead is due to the wealth Britain gained when she ruled over india
basilfawlty8931-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic like I said, I have no issue with you, mate. But you need to stop trying to be edgy for no reason. On this post, you're being so edgy without a point, you're basically a pizza cutter.
@InOtterWords [quote] Also take a few minutes to understand what your opinion is of india... it is a thriving country with the fastest growing economy [/quote]

Great, thanks for proving my point- also typical of someone of your views trying to twist people's opinions of a Country into something they never said.

[quote] I value my life in the UK but i am also uncomfortably aware that the privileged life i lead [/quote]

Yeah people with your opinions usually don't struggle with bills, etc. I have no issue with that but please remember there are those of us who struggle- no pay increase, raised bills, etc.

@basilfawlty89 Really not an edgy opinion to have unless you're a hardcore Guardian reader.
basilfawlty8931-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic it's a silly position, because it's not due to foreign aid that you're poor. It's due to greedy corporations in cahoots with government. Instead of blaming India for the tiny amount they get which I could argue Britain should pay as reparations, why not be mad at unfettered capitalism?
@basilfawlty89 [quote] because it's not due to foreign aid that you're poor [/quote]

Why would I blame India for my position in life? Never said that- that would be silly馃槀
basilfawlty8931-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic so why are you then complaining about foreign aid, it doesn't affect you? The UK is a developed nation, the standard of living is way better than India's in general, so...not sure what point you're trying to make.
@basilfawlty89 Again a Country that has a space programme should not receive foreign aid.

Paying back what was stolen is a seperate matter- but democratically decided as we are not the booming nation we once were (thanks Brexit)
basilfawlty8931-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic using that logic, Israel is probably one of the most prosperous counties in Southwest Asia. Do you recommend that Israel not receive foreign aid and no more reparations from Germany for the Holocaust?
@basilfawlty89 [quote] reparations from Germany for the Holocaust [/quote]

Seperate matter- that was a recent atrocity in which 6 million Jews were exterminated and 5 million others due to ethnicity, disability, etc.
basilfawlty8931-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic and it wasn't a recent atrocity when Churchill starved Bengal?
@basilfawlty89 Waiting for Otter to chime in to call the national hero a facist.

You know this is disputed- you are a well read individual- there was a catastrophe all round- food was in short supply in a war against an ACTUAL facist government so who should be prioritised?

He didn't just say fcuk em and deliberately do it.

Again though a disputed topic, obviously not denying the famine itself.
basilfawlty8931-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic I'm not saying Churchill was a fascist, but he was an imperialist and colonialist.

His policies did have a large impact on the Famine. Churchill, while not a fascist, was a racist and held prejudicial views on Indian people, and for that matter the Irish. The latter is another reason I'm no fan of his, as I'm Irish descended on my mother's side.
@basilfawlty89 You're right. But he was probably our greatest war leader ever- and for his views- he was born in 1874 no need for the presentism.
basilfawlty8931-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic so were many other figures who weren't racists. The point is, about 3 million people starved, among them children. There was never any attempt made at formal reparations. That, the brutal history of colonialism, etc. I'd argue for the UK to give a bit back isn't outlandish.
@basilfawlty89 We do give reperations- foreign aid.

We are not the Country we once were- many of us are now struggling with bills and are more concerned about wanting action on capping utility and transport prices rather than reperations, sorry.
basilfawlty8931-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic still not seeing your issue. If you are paying reparations via foreign aid, then India deserves it.

As to the bills, that's not because of foreign aid, again, and foreign aid being stopped isn't going to directly increase per capita income nor lower inflation.

See, this is why I keep telling centrists - social democracy is great in theory, but in practice it's really just a band aid on a festering wound.
basilfawlty8931-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic adding this: I'm not saying all British leaders were terrible. The problem is people look to Thatcher and Churchill, instead of someone who actually made the UK boom, namely Clement Atlee.