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Abstraction · 61-69, M
@Emosaur (I have to post here because she did run.)
No, I do understand it. And for the record I think your argument is a very good argument around the problem of pain and you argue it well. I respect you for it. It's rational, logical and presents a central dilemma.
My point of disagreement rationally is only that it isn't watertight, it doesn't constitute proof of the non-existence of God, in the sense that there are other possible explanations that counter your arguments. The problem of pain is wrestled with head-on in Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, philosophy... for thousands of years and they provide answers which are in the public domain. So it doesn't invalidate the idea of God.
You don't have to agree with them - the question is - are they rational responses? I don't agree with your view but I affirm the logic. It certainly invalidates [i]some [/i] unsophisticated views of God.
So my own belief addresses this topic head on and is not invalidated by it - and I'm given to honest examination of evidence and rational argument.. I probably first wrestled with it reading CS Lewis' Problem of Pain which deals with it very well if you want an example - he's an exceptional thinker and writer. So... your thesis is a great argument against the existence of God, but not 'proof' that God doesn't exist or that belief in God is irrational.
No, I do understand it. And for the record I think your argument is a very good argument around the problem of pain and you argue it well. I respect you for it. It's rational, logical and presents a central dilemma.
My point of disagreement rationally is only that it isn't watertight, it doesn't constitute proof of the non-existence of God, in the sense that there are other possible explanations that counter your arguments. The problem of pain is wrestled with head-on in Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, philosophy... for thousands of years and they provide answers which are in the public domain. So it doesn't invalidate the idea of God.
You don't have to agree with them - the question is - are they rational responses? I don't agree with your view but I affirm the logic. It certainly invalidates [i]some [/i] unsophisticated views of God.
So my own belief addresses this topic head on and is not invalidated by it - and I'm given to honest examination of evidence and rational argument.. I probably first wrestled with it reading CS Lewis' Problem of Pain which deals with it very well if you want an example - he's an exceptional thinker and writer. So... your thesis is a great argument against the existence of God, but not 'proof' that God doesn't exist or that belief in God is irrational.
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