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Charlie Hebdo spreading crap again, this time in a more obnoxious way than ever, making fun of the victims of the earthquake in Italy. They are very high in my 'things the world would be better without' list. Can you call this satire?

twistermind · 51-55, F
It's pretty tasteless and not funny at all.
I don't follow this newspapper so I can't give my opinion about it but the thing about Italian earthquake is completely weird.
Cierzo · M
It is really vile. Just hate for the sake of it. I cannot call the piece of shit that drew this a person.
twistermind · 51-55, F
This is the right term "vile". I like humor and satirical one is pretty intelligent. But, this is far from any intelligency.
I understand you can do a criticism to authories in Italy in the case they wasn't very correct...I'm talking hypothetically. I think it's not the case, but telling a joke about dead people...like if they were only piece of meat.
novembermoon · 51-55
I don't like people or news people trivializing human suffering. It was done in bad taste really and I wonder why people with common sense have to tolerate it.
Cierzo · M
Really tasteless, cruel, and mean. They should die as a consequence of the people not buying it and rejecting their vileness
novembermoon · 51-55
@Cierzo: it seems they are not learning anything from the attacks on their office and editors. I do not condone violence. But I do not believe in freedom of speech and expression taken to such vile tasteless extremes too.
Cierzo · M
@novembermoon: They know that the Italians will not react the way those Muslims do. Apart from vile, they are hypocritical and cowardly, and they only mock those who are not violent
I don't follow Charlie Hebdo, I find their "humor" cruel, (this is just one more example) and I recognize that [i]I'm[/i] easily offended by that sort of thing. But France, like the U.S., claims to value freedom of speech; so it gets back to the issue of censorship, doesn't it ? What is sacred, [b]off-limits[/b] as a target of jokes or ridicule ? People nowadays [i]love[/i] to rail about how they hate "political correctness" when asked to respect others' sacred cows. So where IS that line---and who decides ? 😞
Cierzo · M
It is a very delicate matter to fix the point where freedom of speech and unacceptable hate meet. I put it in slander.
So in my opinion what Charlie Hebdo has done is vile, but NOT a crime. The answer should come from French society, not buying the magazine at all and forcing it to close.
It would help that the Italian government would issue a formal protest to their French counterpart, and even call for a boycott on French products. The goal must be putting the majority of French population against the magazine and its supporters.
@Cierzo: the best defense against a charge of "slander" is the truth. So respectfully, I don't know if slander would apply. The cartoon is the cartoonists' "take" on an actual situation. It's like the cartoon they drew of the Syrian refugee child, the little boy who drowned. Who could make fun of a dead child ?? But the death occurred. Chances are, people who are outraged by their work don't support them and don't buy their magazine anyway. But again, we're speaking of a different country and culture than the U.S. Do the French regularly boycott media ? Do they assume, for example, if segments of the population don't like a message, it has no right to be voiced ? As far as shutting down the magazine, this is precisely what their Muslim community had been trying to accomplish long before the January 2015 attacks on their office.
Cierzo · M
@bijouxbroussard: I don't think slander applies here, so the law should not act shutting down the magazine. It is the French people who must decide if they want to go on with that magazine that gives a bad name to their country, using their power as consumers.

 
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