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How is your country looking with Covid? Medically and Economically (NOT America)

This isnt political. And we know America is trashed now, nothing personal. But there are a LOT of other countries out there navigating their own health and economical recovery paths and I would be interested to know how other peoples believe their country is doing in your own words and opinions.😷
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It’s not personal; it’s indisputable [b]fact[/b]. But I too am curious how those countries are faring where they have focused on this pandemic as the [b]health[/b] emergency that it is and haven’t gotten hung up on having the “freedom” to infect their countrymen. 🙄
Bushranger · 61-69, M
[@854139,ZenraLover] Yes, it is sad. But hopefully, people will take sensible steps to prevent infection. Mind you, the area in which I live had no known local cases. The only ones known were people who travelled from interstate and went straight into home quarantine. Perhaps decentralising and reducing population density will help reduce the numbers.
Bushranger · 61-69, M
[@14688,Nunos50] The reporting of numbers of deaths has been a pain for me. I just wish they gave numbers per 100,000 instead of absolute numbers. It's difficult to do comparisons.
SW User
[@764286,Bushranger] in the UK they give infection rates in areas per 100,000

The official UK covid death tool is three numbers.

. Deaths recorded with 28 days of positive test (would include a car crash victim).
. Deaths with covid on the certificate, probably most accurate but will include some deaths where it played a small part, ie person would still have died close to this date regardless.
. All excess deaths measured above the rolling 5 Yr average death rate.
Longpatrol · 26-30, M
Singapore: Closing on two weeks without local transmission, all the cases are imported and about 99% of those infected have been discharged.

Total cases:58,160
Total recovered:58087
Deaths: 28

We’re doing ok so far.
ZenraLover · 31-35, M
Well, that is Singapore's [i]Kiasu[/i] spirit for you, [@472983,CrazyMusicLover].
[@854139,ZenraLover] Seriously, do they scare away even death or people who contracted covid die for other reasons? 😅 Are there only young healthy people? Something seems off.
ZenraLover · 31-35, M
Well, it is thank to their genuine management system, [@472983,CrazyMusicLover]. There are some who complain on Singapore's authoritarian system. Yet however, nations such as, Taiwan and South Korea, seems to be handling their Covid-19 Pandemic quite well enough.

So, it all boil downs to the Management, regardless of the country being authoritative or not. Malaysia currently seems to be much more authoritative than Singapore, especially, in terms of the Covid-19 pandemic management, but there seems to be a lot more death cases here in Malaysia than neighboring Singapore.

Also, last Saturday, I read on SW that some African nations seem to take Covid-19 measures a lot more seriously and genuinely, than here in Asia and in the US.
Nanori · 26-30, F
To sum it up, we're totally fucked
economically ..I'd say rough
medically ..we are coping , we are a tough bunch
SW User
Given we have Trump minor in number 10 we're lagging just behind USA in terms of cock up.

What we've done well

. Furlough scheme. Thousands of employees who can't work are paid 80% of their salary by the government by throwing our tax system into reverse.
. NHS has been brilliant, especially the under paid nurses who've found themselves moved from normal duties into icu or covid wards etc.
. Testing - built a diagnostics industry we previously had relied on our European partners for

Done badly.
. Given huge contracts to companies with little or zero experience based in the recommendation of a lord or mp.
. Track and trace - been largely a shambles when they centralised it. Now its being given back to local councils it seems to be slowly getting better
. Testing - whilst we built it up it has had some incredible disasters like running it on a spreadsheet and blowing the max number of rows 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

So so...

. Obeying the rules. Typically British nothing is overtly imposed. Many have done the right thing but obvious cases where a minority haven't.
whowasthatmaskedman · 61-69, M
[@14688,Nunos50] I hear you. We had issues with illtrained contractors securing our quarantine that actually help our second wave escape and spread. A few political and public sector scalps have been taken over that. And our hospitality industry has been choked off completely with pubs restaurants and cafes shut down for all but take away service for months. Yet the people broadly were pretty good and understanding about it all. And the reward is now a cautious reopening..😷
ZenraLover · 31-35, M
Well, from what have I heard of, my home nation India seems to be not that good, in terms of the Covid-19 pandemic management, so far. Also, the people there just like many Americans, are not taking this pandemic seriously enough.

However, there are many Malaysian, too who seem not to be taking its measure genuinely enough, thus her government tends end up taking drastic measures, in the end, such as, lockdown. Worse still, this has become a serious political issue and battle.
Longpatrol · 26-30, M
[@854139,ZenraLover] i’m saddened by what’s happening across the border. I have a colleague from Johor who hasn’t seen her 4 year old son since December of last year :(
ZenraLover · 31-35, M
Well, that sounds quite sad, [@645510,Longpatrol].
whowasthatmaskedman · 61-69, M
[@854139,ZenraLover] I agree that once people start playing politics with a health issue it is never going to end well.😷
alan20 · M
Badly. Community isn't up to it; neither are most of the politicians. I'm talking N.Ireland.
malizz · 70-79, M
In Uk the politicians are overreacting like old maids.
Vetrov · 56-60, M
Australia has been fortunate.

907 deaths
whowasthatmaskedman · 61-69, M
[@1309,Vetrov] Very fortunate indeed.. But we will need to stay very cautious to keep it at bay till the vaccines get here.😷
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
France : Second wave peaked about a week ago. Case numbers have levelled off but still relatively high. Second 'confinément' due to end next week but with tighter measures expected than the first re-opening. A sizeable minority of idiots seem to be taking their cue from those other idiots in the US and seek to portray the public health measures as government overreach or an assault on personal liberty. Luckily that sentiment remains very much on the fringe.
whowasthatmaskedman · 61-69, M
[@18451,Lumpenprole] Our experience including running the numbers down to zero while still keeping locked down.. But you must have the population with you..😷
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
The UK has handled it appallingly, Boris and the tory party have been behind every choose, every wave of it to date. We were the last EU country to get it and completely ignored it and kept everything open and went for heard immunity which failed spectacularly.

They're wasted billions of pounds on contracts for PPE which was either the wrong type or wasn't made to the specs.

We are now have the highest death rate in the EU I think its 58,000

The second wave was coming and all opposition parties told the government to lockdown but they decided on a tier system which they didn't put in place fast enough so we went into full lockdown

Now because boris is bowing to the numpties that say they want Christmas they're looking to go back to the tier system but from the 24th to 28th dec you can do as you want
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
We are doing pretty well in Norway although we are in a second wave now that is rather worse in some areas than others.

No lockdown, no restrictions on internal travel, and only official advice to not travel outside the country (ten day quarantine on return, and travel insurance doesn't cover you). What we do have a is a lot of clear and unambiguous advice that is infrequently changed and is mostly followed. Enforcement is rarely necessary but does occur and people breaking quarantine have been fined. You can be, and have been, fined 20 kNOK (about 2 kUSD) per offence, you can even be jailed although no one has yet. People have been fined, including a priest who should have stayed in quarantine on return from abroad but instead decided to meet some of his parishioners.

In addition there are limits on the number of people who can meet in a confined space such as a home.

In a few towns we are required to wear masks if we can't maintain a one metre distance and we have to wear masks on some public transport.

Our total COVID death rate is 5.7 per 100 k people, at the moment it is 0.4 per 100 k residents over the last two weeks. Unfortunately the death rate is increasing, luckily it is increasing from a low baseline.

Confirmed infections are now 600 per 100 k people, 150 per 100 k in the last 14 days.

Economically most industries are functioning more or less as normal except that even more people than before are working from home. The biggest exception is the tourist industry which has been devastated. The next exception is industries that are heavily exposed to the oil business and they are suffering because demand for oil has declined.

You can see the figures for Norway, Nordic countries, and the whole world at https://www.vg.no/spesial/2020/corona/verden/?utm_source=corona-widget&utm_term=d7#world. It's very interactive, click or hover the mouse to see summaries for each country. It's in Norwegian but should be easy to understand for any English or German speaker, perhaps with the aid of Google Translate or similar.

If you are interested in how the rules are explained here you can read the Norwegian Public Health website in English: https://www.fhi.no/en/op/novel-coronavirus-facts-advice/facts-and-general-advice/social-distance-quarantine-and-isolation/

Edit: added USD fines.
whowasthatmaskedman · 61-69, M
[@872096,ninalanyon] Those fines seem hardly worth writing out. Ours started at $A200 for not wearing a mask without an exemption ($US150) up over $500 for attending a gathering too large (per person) or over a $1000 if it was at your place. There were other fines that have now been relaxed for travelling more than 5km from home without a valid reason or in our case leaving the city for the country. (And yes, there were road blocks up)😷
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
[@621893,whowasthatmaskedman] A fine of 2000 USD is not worth writing about? But yours of less than half are more worth writing about? I'm confused.
whowasthatmaskedman · 61-69, M
[@872096,ninalanyon] My Bad.... I missed the (k) in the first reading😷

 
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