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Okay here is our first book we shall be reading.

https://www.amazon.com/12-Rules-Life-Antidote-Chaos/dp/0345816021

Anybody who is reading along can post comments here as often as you like, no pressure. Let us try and all finish the book by the beginning of april and then all give a final impression upon it after this. Enjoy it all who are part of this challenge, I hope it spurs cognition and hope within you all :) ...Hope this book puts purpose in all our lives :) .....

Post away here in these next six weeks all you wish. Love to hear periodic updates of your impressions of the various chapters, screenshooting paragraphs is welcomed along with page number :) ...
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Okay guys...I am into the 6th chapter now and thought I would stop and post some thoughts thus far. I might forget them if I keep on going without posting.

Chapter 1. Page 14

While I do believe that Science and the Bible are aligning up some, I can somewhat agree that the world has been around for much longer than what it seems is depicted in the creation facts of 6 days in the beginning of Genesis. If one digs deep enough they find that the Bible says, in 2 Peter3:8 "...one day is with the Lord as a 1000 years, and a 1000 years is as one day". :)

However I do [b]not[/b] believe that we had to evolve to have our "skin, or hands, or lungs, or bones". As we Bible believers know that the Holy Bible tells us that God took a rib (bone) from Adam and made Woman. Genesis 2: 21-22 tells us, "And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept:and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man, made he woman and brought her unto the man.

As far as the rest of the chapter, how much we are like lobsters was interesting. I certainly believe that standing straight with your shoulders back certainly portrays competence and confidence!

The second thing that really jumped out at me was simply this, and I know it is not really a big deal but I strongly [b]disagree [/b]with it.

Chapter 2. Page 31

The author says, concerning patients noncompliance with their medications/care as ordered by their physicians, "Physicians and Pharmacists tend to blame such patients for their non compliance, inaction and error." and "Psychologists tend to take a dim view of such judgements. We are trained to assume that the failure of the patients to follow professional advice is the fault of the practitioner, not the patient." As a healthcare professional, I know that this is simply [b]not[/b] true. I mean we, physicians included have taught patients til we are blue in the face about diabetes...and quite frankly if they do not eat right, and take their medicine as prescribed, they could lose their vision, ruin their kidneys, and lose limbs, and many do. They can tell us with clear understanding what they need to do, yet they will not take their medication or eat right...and many lose limbs or have kidney failure...It's the same with hypertension. We can preach til we are blue in the face, yet they will not keep check on their BPs nor take medicine as perscribed...and yet they too know all too well they could have a CVA (stroke), and many do. Same thing with clogged arteries...they know what to do, yet they do not have the discipline to cut back that red meat, exercise, and keep cholesterol at healthy levels...Many will wind up with open heart surgery with triple bypass before giving up something that they want or exercising discipline (And I am all too aware that much of this is just in the genes, but they can and must do their part to fight against these diseases to keep them under control).

Chapter 3

Oh to me so much of this was just common sense. "Make friends with people who want the best for you." Yes, hang out with people that are not going to pull us down. Make wise decisions as Mama always said, you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas.. :D We are influenced by those that we camp out with. There is so much I could say about this chapter but it clearly speaks for itself and I have no disagreements there.

Chapter 4
I really did not have anything jump out at me in this idea other than I agree that we should compare ourselves to who we were yesterday and GROW than who someone else is today.

Chapter 5

I sat on the edge of my seat wondering how this author felt about physical punishment of a child...I really had no clue which way he would go on this and was so glad when I discovered that I agree much with his writing/thinking.

Page 123, The author says, "...modern parents are simply pluralized by the fear that they will no longer be liked or even loved by their children if they chastise them for any reason. They want their children's friendship above all, and are willing to sacrifice respect to get it. This is not good. A child will have many friends, but only two parents..." [b]I so agree..[/b]

Page 134 Says You can discipline your children, or you can turn that responsibility over to the harsh, uncaring judgmental world... And the motivation for the latter should never be confused with love. I say PREACH!!

You can leave your children for society to correct, but it will be behind bars very possibly, and they will not be corrected with love. It is love for a child that will correct them ahead of time and make them fit for the society and the world we live in.

Page 142 minimize necessary force.

Page 141 says, and I found what I was looking for this whole chapter...

"If your child is the kind of determined varmint who simply runs away, laughing when placed on the steps or in his room, physical restraint might have to added to the time out routine...If that fails, being turned over a parent's knee might be required. For the child who is pushing the limits in a spectacularly inspired way, a swat across the backside can indicate requisite seriousness on the part of a responsible adult. There are some situations in which even that will not suffice, partly because the children are very determined, exploratory, and tough, or because the offending behavior is truly severe." Kudos to the author!

Proverbs 22:15 tells us that Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."

Okay...on the chapter 6!
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[@5571,therighttothink50] You are welcome..From now on I will post them as I read/feel them. I had to read half of what I had read again to find the points that I wanted to comment on. haha :)
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
[@417592,Dixiechick] i have a small white blank bookmark, i write the page and paragraph down i want to go back to this way and i avoid marking up the book. you can do this if it helps, bookmark and pencil needed, cut your own blank sheet of white card stock :)
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[@5571,therighttothink50] Well about the 5th chapter I started doing that... LOL
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Just finished up chapter three.

Chapter three deals with a whole bunch of questions we need to ask ourselves as individuals. Do we choose our friends wisely? Is nihilism while wallowing in self-pity and depression a convenient cop-out a bunch of us people choose to cling onto just to avoid life? Do we conveniently choose an existence over living?

Are we sincerely willing to help ourselves or somebody else, is each person genuinely taking the necessary steps to be helped? Does bringing a troubled person into a group setting, be it in the workplace or other spaces within our lives with the intention of helping them have more negative or positive results?

Are we being honest with ourselves and our intentions in caring for a friend? Is it about inflating our own ego or really taking the time to help a person we know really truly desires to be helped? Are we men and women of virtue or just virtue signalers?

All questions which require an honest introspection and reflection, all dealing with why/how we choose our friends and if they truly want to be helped. Do we honestly want to be helped ourselves? Do we genuinely take the necessary steps to produce positive changes within our lives and the lives of others ?
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
[@417592,Dixiechick] how do you like it so far? any writings about it you wish to post?
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[@5571,therighttothink50] I do have some but I need to find the pages of them... From now on, when I find something I want to comment on, I will make a note including page and my thought. I will find those previous ones perhaps this weekend and comment...only a few have I not wrote down but I remember the thoughts very well.... 👍🏻
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[@5571,therighttothink50] And I like it! It’s challenging and deep thinking ... I however do disagree on 2 things he wrote...I also can see myself in some of his writing!
katielass · F
I know it will be a good read if you recommend it. ✅
akindheart · 61-69, F
I have ordered the book from ebay. much cheaper. I would love to contribute to this discussion.
katielass · F
[@18045,akindheart] I was going to order through ebay but remembered I have Discover reward dollars, it didn't cost me anything. YEA! Glad you're going to be in on the discussion.
akindheart · 61-69, F
[@120824,katielass] wouldn't miss it for the world
katielass · F
[@18045,akindheart] ✅
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Thank you, I am gonna order William Cooper's book Behold a Pale Horse so I will get this one too.
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
[@16806,cherokeepatti] you might like this one too :)

https://www.amazon.com/Inconvenient-Facts-science-that-doesnt/dp/1545614105
[@16806,cherokeepatti] Oh I have that book on pdf,Patti. Message me and I can send it to you.😘
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[@5571,therighttothink50] Hmmm sounds like a book I’d be into! 🙂
akindheart · 61-69, F
ok, just read chapter 1. but something stood out on page xxx. amazing paragraph. will type it later! speaks volumes about the political system now.
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Seratonin levels contributing to how we feel. Just rising the same time each morning can help us all every day :) .......
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[@5571,therighttothink50] That was interesting..but really nothing new to me. We should also go to bed around the same time at night too. haha I know that's not in the book but it does help our sleeping rhythm and very helpful for those that have sleep issues. :)
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
First roll call, if you are reading the book, please shout out to us all "present" and the page you are on. I will do this every week just to check where we all are. Again no pressure, read at your own pace. This is not a competition but rather a free exchange of ideas and impressions. Ideas which spur many thoughts.
I’m reading .. just started on it TODAY !!
akindheart · 61-69, F
[@5571,therighttothink50] i have it but i am in the middle of reading "Remember the Ladies on the sufragette movement. that is next!
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[@5571,therighttothink50] Hey! PRESENT!!!!I am reading it and have read the forward and overture... just started on chapter 1 and also that is page 1 haha ... I plan to finish this chapter tonight or at the very most by tomorrow.... I will play catch up Saturday...Will post some thoughts as I get into the meat of his writing... 😊
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
We simply can not ban everything which we feel is offensive to us. We can't become so self-conscious to the point where beauty shames the ugly, strength shames the weak and so on. We can not settle for existence but rather we need to choose the will to live. To live with purpose even if it risks offending others at times. Even if it causes us unhappiness at times.

We need to embrace and appreciate other people and ideas which enrich our lives and make us better people. Ideas and people who cause us to think, even if we disagree at times. Healthy debate is a good thing, shutting down freedom of thought and expression is evil. We simply can not ban other people's ideas and words.

Political correctness brings about a society which yearns for nothing but only produces a society of thumbed down empty people devoid of purpose. All existing based upon the idea of being liked by all which is an impossibility. To please everybody. It is not realistic, it just divides people. It is pure phoniness.
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I’m gonna buy it Friday! Let’s do this !! 😊
katielass · F
[@417592,Dixiechick] Yea! Glad you're going to join. this is going to be interesting and fun. Thanks to therighttothink50 for taking the lead on this.
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Yeah! 👍🏻[@120824,katielass]
ravenwind43 · 46-50, F
I have had a lot of things going on so if I don't get a chance to get in on this one I will the next!:)
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
[@10807,ravenwind43] We need your input :)
ravenwind43 · 46-50, F
[@5571,therighttothink50] Hopefully this weekend I can order it:)
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
[@10807,ravenwind43] you'll catch up :)
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Are you all mute, nobody talks about the book :(
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[@120824,katielass] I left a detailed comment below..on each chapter I have read as of yet. :)
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
[@120824,katielass] You prolly ordered from somebody out of the usa, always check and ask the seller where he or she ships from. amazon should be put in jail for not putting up front where stuff ships from.
katielass · F
[@5571,therighttothink50] Oh crap., I never look at that but I;ve never run into this problem before. I got an email a few days after I ordered it and it said the estimated date of delivery would be 3/26 to april something. Jeez, lesson learned. thanks for alerting me. Don't let me hold anything up. You guys go ahead and I'll try to catch up and if I can't keep up I'll just go with the next one.
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Anybody start the book yet, like I said i am up to chapter 2 now.
katielass · F
[@5571,therighttothink50] Mine has been shipped but not yet received. I'll catch up.
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[@5571,therighttothink50] yup...
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
I just finished the introduction, overture and first chapter, last page read 28....Oh my moral relativism and virtue signaling by millennials who knew :)

Lobsters and more lobsters, order and chaos within society. Stand up straight with your shoulders back, please don't droop now.

Who would of thunk it, there is a pecking order to society and our individual responsibility and actions determine where we stand. Who would have known... :)
ravenwind43 · 46-50, F
Sounds great! Hope I can get in on tbis.:)
akindheart · 61-69, F
[@10807,ravenwind43] go to ebay. it was cheaper than amazon. plus free shipping
ravenwind43 · 46-50, F
[@18045,akindheart] Thanks!
akindheart · 61-69, F
I am currently on chapter 2. Had to get past the lobster analogy. on Page XXX, this was profound-It isn't precisely that people will fight for what they believe. They will fight, instead, to maintain THE MATCH BETWEEM what they believe, what they expect and what they desire. They will fight to maintain the match between what they expect and how everyone is acting....THAT is profound.
katielass · F
Doesn't look like my book will arrive until around the 26th of the month. 😈
Splendida · 51-55, F
Yay this sounds fun! : )
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
[@531597,Splendida] will you be joining us?
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This book ?
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
[@1854,Back2Just4Fun]

https://similarworlds.com/8727503-I-Am-A-Member-Of-The-Book-Club/1738646-Okay-here-is-our-first-book-we-shall-be-reading
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
[@1854,Back2Just4Fun] yes
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
I get it....nobody likes the book, he writes too deep and over our heads at times I guess. Oh well I tried, I thought we could have some fun with it, oh well, my apologies to you all.
katielass · F
[@5571,therighttothink50] You have nothing to apologize for. You had a great idea and no one forced anyone to get the book or read it. It's still a good idea.
akindheart · 61-69, F
[@120824,katielass] i second that Katie and Right. it was too deep. i tried but i think it is a great idea.
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Since a few haven't received the book yet, I am pushing back the soft due date for completion to April 15 th, does that sound good everybody?
katielass · F
[@5571,therighttothink50] Works for me. thanks.
[@5571,therighttothink50] it does thanks!
I’ve started on it ...
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Everybody seems to have slowed down, new due date on book now May 1, would appreciate some posts before then though :)
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I am very sick right now and I’m still at ch. 6 but I will catch up when I feel like holding my head up.... 😊[@5571,therighttothink50]
ravenwind43 · 46-50, F
This sounds like a great book....I don't think I can get in on this one but definitely the next one. Please keep me posted. :)
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Finished chapter two... I have a feeling there will be many comments from me... 🙂
akindheart · 61-69, F
[@417592,Dixiechick] there is a very profound paragraph on page XXX. please read it. it is about the philosophy of people trying to justify their beliefs
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I’ve read it. I’ll look back at it and reread it and you and I can discuss! 😊[@18045,akindheart]
I have a Pdf library of all kinds of books. Let me know and I'll ck if I have them.😘
akindheart · 61-69, F
faith2hope4love · 56-60, F
I have alot of catching up to do...I am only on chapter one!! Lol 😉
Looks like a very interesting read so far...thought provoking!!🙄
PoetryNEmotion · 56-60, F
I didn't read it. I did stop by to nibble on grapes, steal some potato salad, and listen in....LOL.
ravenwind43 · 46-50, F
Let me know what the next book will be please!

 
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