I Am a Social Democrat

@Qwerty14 🤦‍♂️ Calendars have been diffrent trough time because of diffrent choices. The choice of taking solar and lunar cycles is a "reason" to make a choice, but it doesn't have to be.

[quote]There might be reasoning behind it, but at the end choices had to be made and these choices are arbitrary.[/quote]

And I know this: [i]"And the 1st day of the year changes quite a bit culture to culture."[/i] , and yet a lot of nations use the same callendar with the same 1st day of the year because of "adoption" or "conquest".

And Christmas was also a choice made by early christian leaders. Christmas isn't described in the bible on a certain date. How can it be? Because when accounts of the bible were described, the Gregorian calendar wasn' even in effect.

Your innitial point was:

[i]"it's arbitrary and dumb for countries to pick a day with no real significance to them. [...] Or New Years in February just because the Chinese do."[/i]

But when it comes to "New Years", then I guess we are all arbitrary and dumb because at some point in time, because of historical reasons, a lot of us adopted the Gregorian Calendar which was by itself a dictate from some people that invented it. We adopted it, and later on we adopted the idea that 1st of januari was the beginning of the year.

Like we adopt a lot of cultural things from eachother over time. Like "Santa Claus", is totally made up, started in the US, has verry little to do with christianity as a whole and yet comes down a lot of chimneys all over the world. Because nations "adopt" culture and ideas. Just like the Greeks adopted the Gregorian Calendar and at some point adopted the 1st of january, which you know inherrited through culture.

@Kwek00 It isn't arbitrary if there is a cultural logic to item

@Qwerty14 Man, if you have a choice to make, and everyone starts giving you arguments why a certain choice is better then another choice. But none of the arguments actually are so good that it would be stupid not to take the choice, then you that makes the descision will "value" one choice over the other because you are the arbiter. These are ussually the thoughest choices, because there is no net-worth that is better then the other, and that's why the choice isn't shared by most people in the begin with. People just value one thing over the other because they "feel" (no rational behind it, just feelings) that their choice is better. The maker of the choice, is therefore arbitrary, (s)he just makes the descision.

Like the "lunar cycle" today looks like this:


At some point in time, someone made the choice to make the mooncyle start with what we call "new moon". To call it "NEW moon" is already part of the choice, because it's the NEW one. But if in that point of the time the person choice to start with "full moon" as being the "NEW moon", and we all would adopted it, and it became part of culture. Then we would all consider this "normal" today instead of the cycle that we know now. Because the moon doesn't care when we start what we see as cycle. Nothing in the universe dictates that our model has to be like that. Someone just decided that it was, and someone arbitrary decided where it started.

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