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Needles And Me Don't Mix

When I was born in 1955, the practice was to get kids stuck as soon as possible for all types of illnesses and diseases. Polio was a big thing.So were chicken pox,measles,mumps, German measles - you name it, it was a popular sickness.

And here is where I come in.

I hate needles with a passion. I cried and fought every time I had to go to the doctor and get a vaccination.I have a very tender skin, and it didn't toughen up any over the years before I went to kindergarten, either.

Fast forward to 1970's. I found myself in need of a colostomy. No one told me I would need to get a shot before the procedure. I was in my hospital room,sound asleep, with my arms crossed over my chest. I didn't feel anyone pick up my arm, but I sure felt the long catlike scratch on the interior of my left arm - my GOOD arm! I sat up with a loud cry, grabbing my arm with my other hand and crying steadily. The scratch hurt steadily, turning a bright red.

Fast forward to present day. COVID-19 hits the world. The President, the Governors, and everyone else is jumping on the bandwagon to get shots.

I have not had any kind of shot since the colostomy, and I really don't WANT one.I have heard of people getting mild cases of COVIX19o after the shot, and I don't want one of those either.

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cherokeepatti · 61-69, F

There was a virus in some of the small pox vaccines given to our generation that was a retrovirus and has been linked to getting cancer. No telling what all the crap we’ve gotten including autoimmune illnesses due to some germ in those vaccines. I never had paraflu till I got vaccinated for the flu the first time in my mid-30’s, I didn’t realize it was linked to the flu vaccine and got 2 more later. I also developed rheumatoid arthritis during that time. I had a doctor later ask me if I’d had my flu vaccine yet and told him I wouldn’t be taking any more since I got paraflu every winter and it kept coming back several times leaving me fatigued all winter....he shook his head and said “I can’t take it either, it makes me have paraflu too”. WHY IN THE HELL DON”T THEY WARN ANYONE ABOUT THESE VACCINES BEFORE PUSHING THEM ON US?

MaryJanine · 61-69, F

@cherokeepatti They tell you about the "good stuff" ab9ut it and then reveal the "bad stuff" after you had it done.

cherokeepatti · 61-69, F

@MaryJanine yep you can get your blood tested for a certain hepatitis too, probably too late to save our livers at this point if we got it from a vaccine.

Confined · 56-60, M

I have a very hard time with needles myself. I give a nurse 5 stars if she can stick me the first time. I had an ER visit on Wed the 7th. Hollie stuck me quick and easy. I jumped but it did not phase her one bit. When I had my colonoscopy it took the nurse several times and could not get the needle in. I asked for a numbing shot, they had to get some one else to do that and then stick me. I was not a happy camper but the other person got it done with little fanfare.
After I broke my hip, they sent me home with syringes to give myself shots with. I had a few words with the discharge nurse over giving myself shots. Took a few days and a friend of my moms that was a nurse to learn how to stick myself. I have to use ICE to numb my skin first. I hated it.
I have not had covid and I dont want any poison injected into me. Ill be fine.

MaryJanine · 61-69, F

@Confined You sound exactly as I feel. The Sunday before the COVID19 hit, I walked to the mailbox down the street to drop off some mail. I went back into my unit and have not been out since. I order in my groceries and visit the laundry room on my floor. We are required to wear masks in the public area when around other people. I have a bad knee and use a walker, so I can't stand on line indefintely to wait to be helped. My feet start to feel fuzzy if I do.

My youngest brother is going today to get shot #1 of two today, but he is out in the public more than me, so he needs it. I don't need a sore arm and I heard even with the shot there is a chance of catching the disease. Sorry about your troubles. Take care of yourself and best wishes through this mess.

xmedleft · 51-55, M

They don't typically get a CASE of COVID, they have a reaction to the shot as their immune system steps up, but it's not the same as a CASE.
I had COVID, shot 1 reaction and shot 2 reaction... while the shot reactions were like mini-cases of COVID, they were still FAAAAAAR BETTER than COVID. More people die of COVID (percentage AND numerical) than from the shots.
Get the damn shot, it's not about what you WANT it's about what the other 8 billion of us need -- we need you to not be the weak link in the chain of our survival.

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xmedleft · 51-55, M

@MaryJanine A COVID reaction is not COVID. It appears the same, but is not caused by an actual virus-cell invasion.
They are therefore also not contaqeous (indicative of COVID) and don't have the reaction for as long (I was down with the disease for 13 days).
Again, I had the disease AND later on the shots. I know the difference physically and took enough college bio to know the difference in causality and effectuality.
So note. At no point did I refute that the shots have an effect, in fact I said it before you did. However getting the shot is not the SAME as having the disease and getting the shot doesn't make you a danger to anyone else.

MaryJanine · 61-69, F

@xmedleft I know not everyone has a reaction to a shot. Others do. Some have come down after being vaccinated and died. And people that were healthy and went for a shot got sick.

The shot, no. matter what kind you get, is not a 100% precaution. If push comes to shove, I want the one-time-and-that-is IT. They have people come to your home and do it there; I've seen it on the mews. I have difficulty walking as it is.

xmedleft · 51-55, M

@MaryJanine Some places do have home service, I don't think my state does.
Yes there were even a few deaths from reactions to the shot itself -- most of those were in people who got the one-time shot. Still the odds of dying from the shot are FAR less than those of dying from COVID. You are allowing the presence of things that can be measured by statistics scare you. But if you actually looked at the statistics then you'd see that YOU are faaaar safer getting the shot than you are not. They also uphold that you are far safer getting the Pfizer or Moderna shots (albeit two) than you are not. Finally the stats uphold that Everyone, especially yourself, is safer the more people get the shot. It is simply doing your part.
FDR said, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." and this is true in almost every circumstance. You not getting the shot because you're babying that side of yourself that responds to ambiguous fears is putting yourself and the people around you in more danger.
Whomever you're talking to at any given moment is safer breathing your air if you have the shot -- especially if they're vaccinated. So if the vaccine is only 95% effective in preventing COVID their remaining 5% is protected by your 95% -- unless you don't get he shot.

RobinPhoenix · M

I am sorry to hear of your suffering as a child and adult regarding vaccinations. It horrifies me to read that you were treated this way in the hospital without warning or empathy. Shame on those who did this to you, reinforcing your opposition to vaccinations. I understand why you don't want to get vaccinated even now, so please be careful and take care of yourself until this pandemic is under control.

MaryJanine · 61-69, F

@RobinPhoenix Please, mein kleiner Bruder. Do nicht anger yourself over mein trouble as a little girl. The doctor in question was a cousin/family friend, und the shots were done in his storefront/private office, that I remember well. Main darling Mutter wanted me to go to kindergarten und I wanted to go, but nicht at the cost of a shot. I rebelled twice, und twice mein Mutter made me understand this had to be done.

As fuer the cat-scratch vaccine, I was sleeping. No one woke me to tell me to extend mein arm. What angers me about this memory ist that they grabbed mein LEFT arm, which I use to write, print,und reach fuer things. This ist mein GOOD arm, strong und proper.

There ist a one-shot vaccine which our Governor took in public. This ist what I want if push cones to shove und I have to take something. Heard just now there ist a problem und they are checking it out. Also they are sending people to your house if you need shots und can't go out. I think I qualify under this order.

But danke fuer your compassion. I am getting mein groceries delivered now - saves going out - und have David to help me mit things - stamps und such.

xmedleft · 51-55, M

@MaryJanine WTF are you doing there? mixing in some German words doesn't make this German -- just ethnist.

And the J&J shot isn't regarded as preventative -- just lowers the effects if you do get COVID -- but if you do get it you can still spread it= you're a public health hazard.

soar2newhighs

Yes, I remember when one child had a given condition the other kids in the building were all brought together and exposed. That was a common practice at least in the 50s

MaryJanine · 61-69, F

@soar2newhighs Yes, GOD do I remember. It was "a common practice" because of the polio scares and attacks each year. My poor mother couldn't get me stuck without a fuss or attendant trouble. You couldn't enter kindergarten without these vaccines and twice I had a red bottom in the doctor's office for fighting the medication.

xmedleft · 51-55, M

@soar2newhighs that's only for low-lethality events like Chicken Pox. Hopefully they wouldn't do something like that for Polio or Rubella.

MaryJanine · 61-69, F

@xmedleft If you ever get chicken pox, you have a chance later in life of contracting shingles. My youngest brother had a "play date" with a friend in the next block, and caught chicken pox from him. My mom kept her three oldest kids away from my brother so the disease wouldn't spread. He recovered. but he had shingles twice as an adult.

As for regular measles and Rubella - I caught the former in kindergarten, the latter in the fifth grade. This despite being vaccinated for both in my lifetime.

When I was growing up, vaccines were a must. You couldn't go to school without a record of having them. There was a 50-50 chance of you contracting the disease and polio was an ever present threat for adults and kids.

nevergiveup · M

Good job your not like me then

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