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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Yes, don't get me wrong I value life and I'm thankful for it but it would be dishonest to tell you no despite my personal feelings.
No extinct species, no threatened ecosystems, no buildings, no climate change, less dead zones, no factories, no poaching, no pollution in the water, no acid water, no soil erosion, no wars and also half the viruses we have now wouldn't exist.
There will always be natural viruses but there's only 3 viruses out of like 10 that haven't been due to animal agriculture, all the rest of the viruses we have are pretty much because of that industry.
[b]https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/coronavirus-meat-animal-farming-pandemic-disease-wet-markets-a9505626.html
https://www.forksoverknives.com/wellness/coronavirus-e-coli-zoonotic-influenza-animal-agriculture-spawns-infectious-diseases/[/b]
No extinct species, no threatened ecosystems, no buildings, no climate change, less dead zones, no factories, no poaching, no pollution in the water, no acid water, no soil erosion, no wars and also half the viruses we have now wouldn't exist.
There will always be natural viruses but there's only 3 viruses out of like 10 that haven't been due to animal agriculture, all the rest of the viruses we have are pretty much because of that industry.
[b]https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/coronavirus-meat-animal-farming-pandemic-disease-wet-markets-a9505626.html
https://www.forksoverknives.com/wellness/coronavirus-e-coli-zoonotic-influenza-animal-agriculture-spawns-infectious-diseases/[/b]
Mindful · 56-60, F
I think Earth is in it middle age (if you were to compare it to human life time frame). It’s past adolescence. Humans however are younger... have the collective intelligence of a 10 year old . As more human understand life cycles, Earth with win the fight to survive and keep some humans who are capable of helping it. We have gone from cannibalism and crucifiyiing one another publicly to behaving more civility. So yes we have room to grow intellectually @SatanBurger ultimately care more about Earth collectively as well. That doesn’t mean we won’t wipe out a few million. People first :-(
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Mindful Not that I don't agree from a moral standpoint with you but the question was would life be better without humans. And aside from sticking up for the human race generally, what would be in total turmoil if humans just ceased to exist? Ecosystems would flourish, not disappear without human intervention and I guess domesticated animals would be screwed somewhat but that would naturally balance itself out after awhile. Not that I would want any harm to come to dogs and cats, I love them after all, but it's just a thought.
So aside from that, I seriously can't think of one thing that absolutely [b]"needs"[/b] us to thrive. I'm not saying this from a personal view, it's just an observation.
Wanted to touch on what you wrote really quick though.
In my opinion, only laws define civility. If they remove all laws, would we be civil? I'm not saying we wouldn't but it would be interesting challenge to wonder if we had no laws.
Like I'm of the opinion that some if not most laws that don't harm another human are unnecessary but I would be mainly curious if humanity's "goodness," is set on "will I get in trouble for this or would I get away with it" rather than altruistic motivations and if that really is a sign that we are more civilized.
I do think maybe a cannibal with a fork and spoon is still a cannibal or has the potential to be.
So aside from that, I seriously can't think of one thing that absolutely [b]"needs"[/b] us to thrive. I'm not saying this from a personal view, it's just an observation.
Wanted to touch on what you wrote really quick though.
In my opinion, only laws define civility. If they remove all laws, would we be civil? I'm not saying we wouldn't but it would be interesting challenge to wonder if we had no laws.
Like I'm of the opinion that some if not most laws that don't harm another human are unnecessary but I would be mainly curious if humanity's "goodness," is set on "will I get in trouble for this or would I get away with it" rather than altruistic motivations and if that really is a sign that we are more civilized.
I do think maybe a cannibal with a fork and spoon is still a cannibal or has the potential to be.
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Mindful · 56-60, F
No. Every being on earth produces some type of value to earths life’s cycle. It’s humbling when you realize all organisms matter and have symbiotic relationships that are normally invisible to us due to our limited knowledge. We know these things thru passionate scientific studies Humans have what I would call independent and collective significance to the evolution of earth and one another. So many mysteries and so much human development is yet to come.if we are lucky we will outlive/outlast the era of the dinosaurs.
Mindful · 56-60, F
It frightening to me to admit I don’t know the real purpose of what we call and consider evil. I do agree with the concept— that it exists and appears ugly and we have power to over come or dominate or civilize it... but it’s as never ending fight as the cold is to the heat. Constant@Ruth7253 I choose the clan of goodness. I fight on the side of honesty. But I am as imperfect as anyone else.
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MURD3RM0NK3Y · 26-30, M
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with some of them yes, for sure.
From the UK we call them MP's
From the UK we call them MP's
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