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[image deleted]Caytlin Rn.

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Caytlin Rn. Them: "But, Cait, don't you wear a mask when you're in the operating room?! YOU of all people should be advocating for people to wear masks!"

Me: I'm so glad you asked! Let's break down a few key points.

One, in the surgery setting we wear masks for a couple reasons, none of which have much of anything to do with preventing the spread of viruses. The first is to prevent bacteria particles from our own nose and mouth from entering into the patient's surgical cavity. This is not because anyone is sick. This is because we all carry pathogenic material in our airways, that normally are a non-issue, but when a patient is in a compromised state from being given general anesthesia and having their body sliced open, they become more susceptible to these opportunistic microbes we all carry. The second purpose of the mask in surgery is to prevent exposure of the provider to the patient's fluids and tissue. Interesting to note, in many countries the circulating nurse doesn't wear a mask, only those hovering over the surgical site don PPE.

Secondly, not all masks are created equal and most people have no idea which masks are for which circumstances, or that most masks provide little if any protection against viruses. The right mask worn incorrectly increases risk. The masks typically worn in the operating room are simply medical grade surgical masks, like the one I'm wearing here, and are not recommended for use when the presence of small particulate or aerosolized pathogens are in play. They're great for keeping the teams spit out of the patients incision while they communicate during surgery and prevent chunks of tissue and blood spatter from being on the inadvertent lunch menu, but aside from that they're really just little humid breath collectors. Instances when one would don an N95 respirator would be things like a case with a TB positive patient. And we are fit tested for those and given a specific mask type to use in such cases. The fit test consists of putting a giant plastic box over your head and spraying an aerosolized compound into the container while you wait to determine if your mask fit is good based on whether you can taste/smell the spray. It's a big ordeal and redone each year in most facilities.

Last, in my 15+ years in healthcare, I have witnessed more improper use of PPE than I can quantify. I have seen seasoned medical professionals contaminate themselves and everything around them in a matter of seconds. Using equipment without the proper knowledge or training is a recipe for disaster and in this case, increased exposure. Unless you've thoroughly read through the literature and understand the approved uses, application and removal process, appropriate discarding protocols, etc you should probably just sit down and stop promoting inappropriate and unsafe mask use.

So if you're not planning on doing some surgery while you shop for groceries or take a walk in the park, [u]your mask is really just serving to warm your face and harbor some of those germs you're so terrified of right in front of your airway.[/u] And if you're wearing a sock or underwear on your face or rocking a bandana like we're in the wild west, you're simply creating more laundry for yourself, but doing absolutely nothing to stop the spread of pathogens.

[b]And I have to say, I'm a little disappointed to see so many "educated" medical professionals promoting unsafe, baseless practices and seemingly forgetting their foundational knowledge[/b]😬

[b]***None of this even touches on the negative health impacts that can be caused from extended mask use, chronic fear and anxiety, and allowing others to make decisions for you because you don't feel informed or empowered enough to make them yourself. I'll save that for another post."[/b]
SW-User
Ah oh, flamers will be coming your way soon.😅

Even those N95 masks aren't "safe". My hubby is a fabricator, and has coughed up tiny chunks of metal from grinding & welding after using one, but it's going to protect against disease?

I have two autoimmune disorders and compromised lungs. I've agreed to a mask when at therapy or dr. appointments; well, forced to. I'm breathing in more carbon dioxide than fresh oxygen, bordering on panic attacks and further stressing my immune system. [i]That's healthy and in my best interest[/i]. Just as stated, germs seep around those crevices; an even bigger invitation to find way to our lungs.
SW-User
@SW-User Lolz! Don't give af, they can talk to themselves cause I won't. 😁

Yeah I take REAL evidence from peeps like your hubs who know from first hand experience! It means more than any other BS.

Yup it's good to be careful with yerself girlie.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@SW-User Will they let you wear a plastic face shield instead of a mask? I picked up one on ebay for a few quid cos I can't breathe in a mask and here it's allowed.
I am curious about what makes this nurse's opinion more valuable than the opinions of other medical professionals?

It's a rare field where disagreement does not occur and an even rarer field where individuals do not issue opinions that are informed by other convictions that may have little to do with the topic at hand.
SW-User
@Mamapolo2016 Yeah guess I believe someone who's had legit hands on experience for 15+ years and speaks with common honest sense over someone sitting in an office writing out studies that are partial and change every week.
@SW-User But that's not where all the mask information comes from. I've read several articles, seen several interviews, by doctors who've had the virus themselves, pleading with people to wear masks.

My question was not sarcastic - it was an honest question. Plenty of those recommending masks are on the front lines of this.

I would point out she is an OR nurse, not one who specializes in infectious disease.
SW-User
@Mamapolo2016 I get ya. I took your reply in the right vein and not as sarcasm. Danke.👍️ Yeah nobody seems to know for 100%, it's all guess work and opinion.
curiosi · 61-69, F
Been saying this as well, so take that! You haters!
SW-User
@curiosi 👍️👍️ Yeah peeps are obsessed with being right.
strongbow · 46-50, M
Masks are a political tool used by politicians to make their people "feel good" about themselves during a overhyped bad flu season

 
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