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I Dont Believe In Organized Religon

I'm curious about what you guys think of islam religon
Ps: i'm a muslim :)
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
From a Christian point of view, islam is demonic in origin and practice.
Adnane · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955: i want to know more if you could
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Adnane: ST Paul warned that if anyone including an angel were to proclaim a different gospel, they were condemned and bound for hell. Mohammed did exactly that and used an angel as his source. Mohammed thought he was being fooled by a demon but his wife convinced him otherwise. Again St Paul said the woman was the one deceived not the man. According to Mohammed all Muslims go to hell first and wait for judgement where upon allah (aka satan) will lead the elect out of hell into paradise.
Adnane · 26-30, M
I won't dicussed you about the first ideas cause i don't have enough info to answer you but all i'm sure about is what you said at the end is false cause there is something called judgement day wihch people get charge by allah about the thing they did in life if they helped poor people, pray to alah,did ramadan ..... and then if they do well they go to "aljana" paradise and if they do wrong they go to hell, is not like what you said
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Adnane: Do some research then. Yes there is a judgement day but it won't be allah helping you it will be Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of Yahweh.
Adnane · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955: i'm sure he won't be cause we believe in one prophet and his name is mohamed
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Adnane: and Jesus was God. Which one am I going to believe? Funnily enough mohammed said he was fooled by satan. Mohammed said that allah had daughters then changed his story saying he had been deceived by satan. So if he was capable of being fooled once how can we say that he was not fooled the whole time he was dictating? If the Quran is indeed the word of god then how do you justify mohammed changing it? BTW one of the reasons I do not accept mohammed as being of God is because he does not speak with the voice of God. For centuries the prophets of God said thou shall not kill or rape or pillage. Suddenly mohammed says not only is it ok but that it is your duty. Sorry but mohammed was demonic not divine.
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Adnane · 26-30, M
Dude what are you saying is totaly wrong mohamed never said that alah has daughters in quoran there is a proof that alah is one and only and he dosen't have a wife or kids or familyالله وحده لا شريك له
Next thing mohamed never said that it's our duty to rape or kill he said we need to fight for our religion if someone insulting it and about raping are you crazy man raping is the biggest sins in our religon in fact we don't have right to have sex till we get married
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@OhAngel: You could not be more wrong. Look at the commands of each and then tell me they are the same. Yahweh says be honest upfront loving caring nurturing. allah says go kill, rape, pillage, lie. Trust me they are not the same. In fact allah as described by mohammed can not even exist nor can we be his creation.
Shaman · 26-30
@hippyjoe1955: I think a god was to enter a universe that it created, that universe would collapse. Here's my simple logical thinking.
1)God is omnipotent.
2)God creates a universe for people to live in, not itself, for it already was as it is omniexistant (always existed and forever will be).
3)The universe has its rules attained by God, like gravity or electromagnetic forces.
4)God is limitless and out of bound, therefore the universe would not be able to exist if the god was in it as a mortal.

Out of context, mortalisation is one of the things that all religions do. Some to a higher degree and some to a lesser. It is to give a meaning to a concept that is so incomprehensible.
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BeautifulDemon: Christians believe that the universe exists in God and we are made of His substance by His Will in His Thoughts.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@OhAngel: The Word of God is Jesus Christ.
Shaman · 26-30
@hippyjoe1955: If the universe exists in God and it is in its mind, it would still not be logical for it to take a mortal form as avatar. The logic is flawed.

God dies and reborns? Death is the definition of mortality.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BeautifulDemon: How do we know something is alive? Because it dies. We know Yahweh is alive because because He also died at the hands of evil men.
Adnane · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955: give me a prove that alah said rape kill and the rest of stuff that you said
Adnane · 26-30, M
Don't you see his miracles arround the world ?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Haven't you read the quran? How about the haddiths? Let me ask you a question. If you were to describe a fundamentalist muslim what would he like? ISIS comes immediately to mind. What is a fundamentalist Christian? Likely a Mennonite or an Amish or A Quaker. Jefferson once met with a muslim leader and suggested that we could all just get along here. The muslim informed Jefferson that it was the muslims' duty to kill or enslave or convert all unbelievers.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Adnane: Jesus' miracles everyday. allah's ? don't exist didn't happen.
Shaman · 26-30
@hippyjoe1955: See, that's the definition of a mortal being in our universe. If our universe is in God's mind, God is in another realm of reality.

Additionally, the concept of being born does not apply to a concept of God.

Furthermore, if it were a God, would it let mortals kill itself? Do you really believe that?
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BeautifulDemon: Your god is too small. If God decides to enter His creation by taking the form of a man then He can well do it.
Shaman · 26-30
@OhAngel: That's not an argument.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@OhAngel: Jesus rose on the third day and is seated at the right hand of Yahweh the Father. allah is heating the hobs of hell. He is the father of lies and you believe him.