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Gloomy · F
A lot to unpack here:
[quote] Marx believed that the primary characteristic of industrial societies was the imbalance of power between capitalists and workers. The solution to that imbalance, according to Marx, was revolution: the workers would eventually gain consciousness of their plight, seize the means of production, overthrow the capitalist class, and usher in a new socialist society. [/quote]
Yes but not just industrial society. He viewed human history as a history of class struggle which is actually true if you think about it. Every time an old society died it happened through revolutions and struggle of opressed people against the oppressor. Also Marxist theory is so much more than just that.
[quote]During the 20th century, a number of regimes underwent Marxist-style revolutions, and each ended in disaster. Socialist governments in the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, Cuba, and elsewhere racked up a body count of nearly 100 million of their own people. They are remembered for their gulags, show trials, executions, and mass starvations. In practice, Marx’s ideas unleashed man’s darkest brutalities.[/quote]
Cold war propaganda combined with little historic knowledge. Are you aware how brutal feudalism was? Or how many died under Capitalism?
Also according to Marx Socialism could only be build on a crumbling Capitalist society in an industrialized country. Lenin for example had to adapt Marxism for Russia and you fail to adress the pros of the Soviet Union but americans would never do that.
[quote]But rather than abandon their Leftist political project, Marxist scholars in the West simply adapted their revolutionary theory to the social and racial unrest of the 1960s. Abandoning Marx’s economic dialectic of capitalists and workers, they substituted race for class and sought to create a revolutionary coalition of the dispossessed based on racial and ethnic categories.[/quote]
That's bullshit. I advise you to read works by the Frankfurt School or Stewart Hall. They never abandoned Marx dialectic materialism but viewed it intersectionally meaning how Classism affects people of colour and minorities.
[quote]Martin Luther King, Jr[/quote]
He was actually pretty to the left and admitted to believing in a Socialist economy in a love letter.
I won't go into every point made on critical race theory but it all boils down to a new red scare and people being afraid to be confronted by the blood stains on US history. Look at Germanys teaching on the third Reich. They begin early and also include the fight against injustice to never let Nazi ideology spread again, and no german kid feels being judged as an "oppressor" but they are aware of injustices committed in past and present so they can build a better future.
[quote]but that places them in the context of our nation’s high ideals and the progress we have made towards realizing them. Genuine American history is rich with stories of achievements and sacrifices that will move the hearts of Americans[/quote] What about just teaching history honest and objective, while also include anti-racism. Why do you want there to be patriotism and indoctrination in schools?
History is not there to move hearts or be used as a tool to defend US "values".
[quote] Marx believed that the primary characteristic of industrial societies was the imbalance of power between capitalists and workers. The solution to that imbalance, according to Marx, was revolution: the workers would eventually gain consciousness of their plight, seize the means of production, overthrow the capitalist class, and usher in a new socialist society. [/quote]
Yes but not just industrial society. He viewed human history as a history of class struggle which is actually true if you think about it. Every time an old society died it happened through revolutions and struggle of opressed people against the oppressor. Also Marxist theory is so much more than just that.
[quote]During the 20th century, a number of regimes underwent Marxist-style revolutions, and each ended in disaster. Socialist governments in the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, Cuba, and elsewhere racked up a body count of nearly 100 million of their own people. They are remembered for their gulags, show trials, executions, and mass starvations. In practice, Marx’s ideas unleashed man’s darkest brutalities.[/quote]
Cold war propaganda combined with little historic knowledge. Are you aware how brutal feudalism was? Or how many died under Capitalism?
Also according to Marx Socialism could only be build on a crumbling Capitalist society in an industrialized country. Lenin for example had to adapt Marxism for Russia and you fail to adress the pros of the Soviet Union but americans would never do that.
[quote]But rather than abandon their Leftist political project, Marxist scholars in the West simply adapted their revolutionary theory to the social and racial unrest of the 1960s. Abandoning Marx’s economic dialectic of capitalists and workers, they substituted race for class and sought to create a revolutionary coalition of the dispossessed based on racial and ethnic categories.[/quote]
That's bullshit. I advise you to read works by the Frankfurt School or Stewart Hall. They never abandoned Marx dialectic materialism but viewed it intersectionally meaning how Classism affects people of colour and minorities.
[quote]Martin Luther King, Jr[/quote]
He was actually pretty to the left and admitted to believing in a Socialist economy in a love letter.
I won't go into every point made on critical race theory but it all boils down to a new red scare and people being afraid to be confronted by the blood stains on US history. Look at Germanys teaching on the third Reich. They begin early and also include the fight against injustice to never let Nazi ideology spread again, and no german kid feels being judged as an "oppressor" but they are aware of injustices committed in past and present so they can build a better future.
[quote]but that places them in the context of our nation’s high ideals and the progress we have made towards realizing them. Genuine American history is rich with stories of achievements and sacrifices that will move the hearts of Americans[/quote] What about just teaching history honest and objective, while also include anti-racism. Why do you want there to be patriotism and indoctrination in schools?
History is not there to move hearts or be used as a tool to defend US "values".
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
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Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@JFinch because America has a horrid history of racism?
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
I know it's Horseshit...do I have to read it?
