I Have Been ' Blocked '

Once again, I have been blocked by someone just for them being wrong! Ironically, in another post I had made about someone blocking me for exact same reason. In that post, I talked about getting blocked in another post I made about racism against white people and someone blocking me after I said the point they provided did not matter (and it didn't) but then, someone else comes along claiming that whites have never experienced oppression the same way colored people have. I told that person that that doesn't matter either because the main point I was getting at in my post was that whites experience racism and also that they were wrong, mentioning that whites have been enslaved and oppressed in others parts of the world. They responded by telling me I'm wrong and basically calling me a liar so I provided a link to the Wikipedia article on white slavery, before I had realized they blocked me. THEY were wrong and THEY knew this but just like that other person I was complaining about in that post, they just couldn't handle being proven wrong. Both of these people are like twice my age too and they're acting like they're half my age! Wtf is up with some people?!

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fazer1k · 56-60, M

'Right' and 'wrong' are often subjective terms.

PerchingDove · F

@fazer1k Not in this case because it concerns a matter of facts.

fazer1k · 56-60, M

@PerchingDove Maybe.

PerchingDove · F

@fazer1k I can provide the link to the article on white slavery to you too if you like.

fazer1k · 56-60, M

@PerchingDove How would that prove the article to be fact? People who write articles have opinions.

PerchingDove · F

@fazer1k Ugh, forget it. Just skip to the part where you block me. 🙄

fazer1k · 56-60, M

@PerchingDove I have no interest in blocking you. I'm just trying to introduce you to possible points of view other than your own.

I don't know whether white slavery ever happened or not, or what exactly you mean by it, but it would take more than an internet article to convince me one way or the other.

PerchingDove · F

@fazer1k Make whatever the hell you will of this then, lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_slavery

fazer1k · 56-60, M

@PerchingDove Most people nowadays will equate slavery with the slave trade where white people bought and sold black slaves, could treat them however they liked including raping, physically punishing and even lynching them.

Even in the dictionary slavery has a range of definitions:

[quote]slavery ('sleIvərI) noun
1. the state or condition of being a slave; a civil relationship whereby one person has absolute power over another and controls his life, liberty, and fortune
2. the subjection of a person to another person, esp in being forced into work
3. the condition of being subject to some influence or habit
4. work done in harsh conditions for low pay

(Collins dictionary)[/quote]

As you can see some definitions just don't compare to the slave trade. Take number 4 - based on that we could say lots of people in the world are slaves now, but no one is likely to see that as a valid comparison to the slave trade.

PerchingDove · F

@fazer1k You didn't even look at the article. But right, it's going to take more than an article to convince you, even if it's based solely on written history and cites sources for its information and not opinion-based in the slightest. I'm done. 😆

fazer1k · 56-60, M

@PerchingDove You're making an assumption - an incorrect one, as it happens.

That said, even if I hadn't read the article it would not change the meaning or relevance of my post.

PerchingDove · F

@fazer1k There's also nothing in your reply that implies that you did read it so sorry if I get the impression that you're just trying to overlook the information I presented. But I'm still skeptical that you did read it, before you posted that reply anyway. In that article, it defines the exact types of white slavery there have been throughout history and not just slave trades. Strange how someone would immediately start talking about the definitions of slavery after being shown that white slavery has indeed happened. It's almost like you only saw the name of the article I linked and decided to hint that that type of slavery could just mean hard work and not slavery as its typically defined. 🤔 But whatever, this is whole thread is pointless and you're never going to admit that I am right anyway.

fazer1k · 56-60, M

@PerchingDove I did read the article right the way through and it's disingenuous of you to suggest otherwise.

The sad thing is, you are not right! Can you really not understand that the slave trade was based on the idea that black people were (still are to some) inferior and therefore there is no comparison? In addition the slave trade was far more recent and is still having repercussions today.

I suspect that is why you were blocked anyway. Not understanding (or not being willing) to accept the distinction could easily give the impression you may be racist.

room101 · 51-55, M

@fazer1k Dude, are you seriously going with a "most people" argument.

The fact of the matter is that @PerchingDove is absolutely correct ie white people have been the victims of slavery. That's an objective fact, not a matter of subjective opinion. Just as it's an objective fact that, as we speak, the vast majority of women, who are victims of sex trafficking, are white. Which is yet another form of slavery.

The sad thing is, a man of your age is being disingenuous in confining his arguments to the North Atlantic Slave Trade and completely ignoring slavery as a whole.

PerchingDove · F

@fazer1k Like I said, that's the impression I'm getting from you based on how you responded. I don't think it's unreasonable to think so considering.

Can you explain to me what ideology the slave trade was rooted in has to do with this and why it matters when it has affected whites as well. Also, how does that mean that I'm wrong when I say white slavery and oppression has occurred?

I'm not seeing how any of that matters or proves me wrong but if you have an explanation, I'll hear you out.

fazer1k · 56-60, M

@room101 I acknowledged aspects of slavery happening today. Sex slaves have nothing to do with skin colour. The north Atlantic slave trade is very different because it was based on the idea that black skinned people were inferior. It's not the same at all. The fact of the matter is she is wrong to make the comparison. Slavery that has happened against whites is not [i]racism[/i] as she suggests in her story. There is nothing disingenuous in stating this truth.

PerchingDove · F

@fazer1k I give up. You don't make any sense and are not providing the explanations I asked for. I'll assume that you can't and, like the people who blocked me, you just don't want to admit that I'm right and acknowledge that whites have experienced racism and oppression. And you say my arguments might give off the impression that I'm a racist? Lol! Screw you.

fazer1k · 56-60, M

@PerchingDove No wonder you were blocked!

PerchingDove · F

@fazer1k I told you earlier to just skip to the part where you block me. So much for you not being interested in doing so, lol.

room101 · 51-55, M

@fazer1k Look again at the history of slavery, specifically the North Atlantic Slave Trade. If that's what you want to pin your arguments on. The slave trade, in black Africans, had been going for many years BEFORE the notion that black people were inferior was put forward. This was done in order to make the enslavement of blacks more "palatable" and acceptable.

[i]"......the main point I was getting at in my post was that whites experience racism and also that they were wrong, mentioning that whites have been enslaved and oppressed in others parts of the world."[/i]

This is her point. As previously stated, it's an objective truth.