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marineaqua · 22-25, F
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basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@marineaqua you can actually do more than you think with a history degree, same with political science.
marineaqua · 22-25, F
@basilfawlty89 They're only useful if you want to become a teacher or professor in those subjects.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@marineaqua foreign relations, ambassadors, data analysts and diplomats are not uncommon jobs for both those degrees.
Mamapolo2016 · F
Useless is the wrong word. Unmarketable is a better one. A student can get a lot of value out of studying almost anything, but when you're sitting in an interviewer's office, they want to know what you've learned that they're willing to pay for.
A BA can be parlayed into a good career but you're going to start at entry level, and instead of telling everyone around you what you know, you'd best pay attention and learn what you DON'T know.
A BA can be parlayed into a good career but you're going to start at entry level, and instead of telling everyone around you what you know, you'd best pay attention and learn what you DON'T know.
iMystery · M
@PinkPowerRanger It would seem that looks matter in many other industries too 🤔
FaeLuna · 31-35, F
Degrees in the finer arts have more limited usage than other degrees. Things like dance, art, creative writing, music, etc. In a lot of cases, the degree is not going to make you better at your craft or more creative. It's just a piece of paper that forced you to practice and get feedback. About the only thing you can do with the degree specifically is teach that subject. So if you want to be an art teacher, go for it. Otherwise, just practice more.
My film degree was slightly more useful in that it got me access to play around with industrial level equipment and studio settings, and that prepared me better for my film career, since you can't just go out and borrow a news studio to practice with, or cameras and lighting kits that cost $50,000 a piece. The professionals around here liked having someone who knew what they were doing, as opposed to just some kid that decided they wanted to be a filmmaker one day, especially because tight schedules and budgets don't allow for training new kids.
That said, I was able to turn a film production degree with a creative writing minor into a full-time job as a technical writer. They liked the writing background and the technical knowledge gained from working with heavy equipment on film sets, so it's not entirely useless. Just harder to adapt. And that kinda applies to every degree. It's not about what degree it is, but how you can apply that to the job you're going after.
My film degree was slightly more useful in that it got me access to play around with industrial level equipment and studio settings, and that prepared me better for my film career, since you can't just go out and borrow a news studio to practice with, or cameras and lighting kits that cost $50,000 a piece. The professionals around here liked having someone who knew what they were doing, as opposed to just some kid that decided they wanted to be a filmmaker one day, especially because tight schedules and budgets don't allow for training new kids.
That said, I was able to turn a film production degree with a creative writing minor into a full-time job as a technical writer. They liked the writing background and the technical knowledge gained from working with heavy equipment on film sets, so it's not entirely useless. Just harder to adapt. And that kinda applies to every degree. It's not about what degree it is, but how you can apply that to the job you're going after.
Miram · 31-35, F
Degrees aren't useless, people choose to not use what they learnt, or be useless generally. Simply attend and learn nothing for years. Today education is centered around independent learning. You shouldn't be passive. And when you are majoring in any specialty, you are capable of connecting your competencies to someone else's and producing something innovative. This is the case in most universities today.
SW-User
I don’t see it as useless. There are plenty of people out there who use it in their consideration.
Unless the job is heavily specialized (like math or science), I don’t put any weight in someone’s college experience.
After interviewing and working with people for 20+ years, I have found no correlation between college and a good person to work with.
Unless the job is heavily specialized (like math or science), I don’t put any weight in someone’s college experience.
After interviewing and working with people for 20+ years, I have found no correlation between college and a good person to work with.
SW-User
@ChimerIX well... now you’re getting to the specifics of each job. :-)
I don’t want someone who comes in and can’t interact with others. In the early years... we would pick the most skilled worker. The chances of them putting together a good product with the team was less than hiring a slightly less skilled, more personable person.
I don’t want someone who comes in and can’t interact with others. In the early years... we would pick the most skilled worker. The chances of them putting together a good product with the team was less than hiring a slightly less skilled, more personable person.
ChimerIX · 26-30, M
@SW-User Really now? Mind if I ask how that is? Even if people are having to pull a little bit of their extra weight? :o
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@SW-User When my youngest son applied for his first full time job, it was in IT. He said that the interview went for about half an hour and they talked about cars, music, people they knew, pretty much everything other than the job. He finally asked the interviewer why and was told that he could be taught to do the job, but they had to know that he would fit into the team. To my mind, a very progressive company, even though it was very small at the time.
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lamps · 22-25, F
@SW-User Like what? BYU? Although their rules are kinda crazy, I don’t thing their quality of education is too shabby.
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DrSunnyTheSkeptic · 26-30, M
Such that can not be utilized into a job. This is why we use higher learning right? To get a qualification that says we can do "x" job because that university said so. So in other words it depends on whether that field is developed in the said country, otherwise if you're getting qualified for a job for which there is no demand you will be useless to yourself.
iMystery · M
@DrSunnyTheSkeptic Makes sense
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@lamps ahh yeah okay, you're right.
lamps · 22-25, F
@HannibalAteMeOut I’m just saying, in the States at least, students can end up spending well over $100,000 (USD) for a college education (for me personally my education will cost over $200,000 for 4 years).
I’m saying when you’re spending that kind of money, you usually need to pick something practical to get a return on that massive investment. If you’re in a position where your education doesn’t gut you, then I agree that you should pursue what you’re passionate about regardless of its practicality, but for most every college student I know, that isn’t feasible for survival.
I’m saying when you’re spending that kind of money, you usually need to pick something practical to get a return on that massive investment. If you’re in a position where your education doesn’t gut you, then I agree that you should pursue what you’re passionate about regardless of its practicality, but for most every college student I know, that isn’t feasible for survival.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
InOtterWords · F
Are any useless?
It is not just the content of the degree to consider here. It is also about receiving the tools of understanding your own learning capabilities. How you structure reports, essays, present findings, form arguments.
Also university life is an important life experience.
If you are spending time in education to better yourself how can that ever be useless?
It is not just the content of the degree to consider here. It is also about receiving the tools of understanding your own learning capabilities. How you structure reports, essays, present findings, form arguments.
Also university life is an important life experience.
If you are spending time in education to better yourself how can that ever be useless?
ChimerIX · 26-30, M
Creative writing degrees, if you want to learn how to be a better writer then you practice or practice in a workshop so that you may use critique. It's useful for learning other techniques, plot devices, theories, etc. but if you're intention is to be an author or screen writer, it won't get you any further than the guy or gal who reads a book a week then puts her pen to paper.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
The degree one can get from any non-existent University yet waste thousands to get it.