I Love Logic
Free will vs. Hard Determinism, which is true? A bit of a mix of both, although I favor the “there is no such thing as free will, in its absolute form”.
None of us have absolute free will.
We didn’t choose to exist, we are here as the consequence of our parents having sex.
We didn’t choose our mind, body, the world, or what the world contains including its people, plants, animals, and rules, regulations, beliefs, and ways that existed way prior to our own existence.
We have to choose between A, B, and C; yet we didn’t choose these options to choose from.
We didn’t choose to be in a world where if you don’t make money you are out of luck in the streets.
People say, “You always have a choice.”
Well it’s not really a choice. We have to get up in the morning IF we want to live. In order to live we need to have a job that makes enough money to pay for our bills and food on our table.
We are like donkeys chasing a carrot, we may be tired of chasing the carrot, but we have to chase it because our fear of not living is greater than the dread of it at times when we aren’t experiencing our desires being met.
“You always have a choice!”
It’s more like I have to adapt to a reality I chose nothing of in the first place. Raise your hand if you wish you could have sex without chemically introducing dangerous substances to your body or without protection and NOT get pregnant or catch an std? All of us! It’d be a dream come true if only those that wanted and could afford to have kids magically got pregnant, while the others who didn’t want kids or couldn’t afford a kid wouldn’t. Rather, we have to ADAPT to what is by finding ways to avoid the consequences we don’t want. Loopholes to obtain a little pleasure, to have a desire of ours met.
“You always have a choice!”
Well not really. If I am not pleasing, productive, and harmless i.e. convenient for others, they don’t think twice before doing away with me. And I myself would also turn away and have turned away from those who pose a threat or a displeasure to my life that I can’t handle. It is a given that contradiction is cause for conflict, whereas nodding heads and laughter at the mocking of others or of common circumstances to all, bridges accord and temporary friendships.
“You always have a choice!”
Tell me what did I choose in the first place?
To exist? No.
My body and physical features? No.
My mind and bodily functions/instincts? No.
The social norms, ways, labels, definitions, rules, and statutes? No, I can vote later on as an adult but none of it was initially chosen by me in the first place.
“You have a choice in what to do with your life now!”
From options I didn’t choose to choose from in the first place.
There is a sort of limited “free” will, we are given options A, B, and C and we can create something new with what’s already there and create AB. Or we can choose what option satisfies us best, it’s not like my only option is A, yet I am still limited to these options I have to adapt to and choose from, we didn’t pick our options.
We don’t get to say, “I want to choose from a mansion, a beach, gourmet food, and passionate love-making!” We are given options (we didn’t choose in the first place) and from that we have to choose; if we want to continue to live. If you are silent, don’t budge, aren’t moldable, and shake our head you are done away with, labeled, sent to be fixed, or locked up. You don’t really have a choice but to act and pretend as if you are the “good, normal, and acceptable” individual everyone pretends to be to have supposed “friends”, that again, want you as long as you are pleasing to them in some way, that at the second where you cease to be pleasing enough to them, you get dropped without remorse.
So in the greater scope of objective reality we don’t have free will. Because we chose nothing in the first place. Our brain does what it does, we didn’t make our brains or any part of us, we are a product of our parents’ genes coming together.
I think that it appears like we have free will if we don’t think deep enough to realize we are given options, yet we didn’t choose those options to choose from; in the first place. For example: We didn’t choose to exist in a world where money is the determining factor to survival and livelihood, we have no other choice but to adapt if we want to live, and become subservient to those who give us a paycheck or create robots out of those we pay for services.
That’s life. Free? There is an illusion of freedom. But free? We are most definitely not.
None of us have absolute free will.
We didn’t choose to exist, we are here as the consequence of our parents having sex.
We didn’t choose our mind, body, the world, or what the world contains including its people, plants, animals, and rules, regulations, beliefs, and ways that existed way prior to our own existence.
We have to choose between A, B, and C; yet we didn’t choose these options to choose from.
We didn’t choose to be in a world where if you don’t make money you are out of luck in the streets.
People say, “You always have a choice.”
Well it’s not really a choice. We have to get up in the morning IF we want to live. In order to live we need to have a job that makes enough money to pay for our bills and food on our table.
We are like donkeys chasing a carrot, we may be tired of chasing the carrot, but we have to chase it because our fear of not living is greater than the dread of it at times when we aren’t experiencing our desires being met.
“You always have a choice!”
It’s more like I have to adapt to a reality I chose nothing of in the first place. Raise your hand if you wish you could have sex without chemically introducing dangerous substances to your body or without protection and NOT get pregnant or catch an std? All of us! It’d be a dream come true if only those that wanted and could afford to have kids magically got pregnant, while the others who didn’t want kids or couldn’t afford a kid wouldn’t. Rather, we have to ADAPT to what is by finding ways to avoid the consequences we don’t want. Loopholes to obtain a little pleasure, to have a desire of ours met.
“You always have a choice!”
Well not really. If I am not pleasing, productive, and harmless i.e. convenient for others, they don’t think twice before doing away with me. And I myself would also turn away and have turned away from those who pose a threat or a displeasure to my life that I can’t handle. It is a given that contradiction is cause for conflict, whereas nodding heads and laughter at the mocking of others or of common circumstances to all, bridges accord and temporary friendships.
“You always have a choice!”
Tell me what did I choose in the first place?
To exist? No.
My body and physical features? No.
My mind and bodily functions/instincts? No.
The social norms, ways, labels, definitions, rules, and statutes? No, I can vote later on as an adult but none of it was initially chosen by me in the first place.
“You have a choice in what to do with your life now!”
From options I didn’t choose to choose from in the first place.
There is a sort of limited “free” will, we are given options A, B, and C and we can create something new with what’s already there and create AB. Or we can choose what option satisfies us best, it’s not like my only option is A, yet I am still limited to these options I have to adapt to and choose from, we didn’t pick our options.
We don’t get to say, “I want to choose from a mansion, a beach, gourmet food, and passionate love-making!” We are given options (we didn’t choose in the first place) and from that we have to choose; if we want to continue to live. If you are silent, don’t budge, aren’t moldable, and shake our head you are done away with, labeled, sent to be fixed, or locked up. You don’t really have a choice but to act and pretend as if you are the “good, normal, and acceptable” individual everyone pretends to be to have supposed “friends”, that again, want you as long as you are pleasing to them in some way, that at the second where you cease to be pleasing enough to them, you get dropped without remorse.
So in the greater scope of objective reality we don’t have free will. Because we chose nothing in the first place. Our brain does what it does, we didn’t make our brains or any part of us, we are a product of our parents’ genes coming together.
I think that it appears like we have free will if we don’t think deep enough to realize we are given options, yet we didn’t choose those options to choose from; in the first place. For example: We didn’t choose to exist in a world where money is the determining factor to survival and livelihood, we have no other choice but to adapt if we want to live, and become subservient to those who give us a paycheck or create robots out of those we pay for services.
That’s life. Free? There is an illusion of freedom. But free? We are most definitely not.
36-40, F