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I Don't Believe In Free Will

Free will is a social construct.

1. We didn’t ask to exist.
2. We didn’t choose our body, mind, the world, what it contains, or the raw materials we were born into and have to work with.
3. We are forced to adapt through reward and punishment. We are maneuvered through a promise of satisfaction and fear.
4. We are ONLY wanted and deemed worthy in this world if we are pleasing, productive, and harmless. If we are NOT there is something “wrong” with us, despite the fact we are all simply objectively different physically and in some desires and the desires of those in power become objective despite everyone’s desires and wishes being subjective to their preference.

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SomeMichGuy · M

hmmm

1) Not sure as I have no information about any existence I may have had prior to this.

2) Agree.

3) Do you refer to social conditioning?

4) I think this is where you have a lot of passion here, so I am guessing you are feeling rather maligned or dismissed or unnoticed or unappreciated be cause you don't fit into the standard boxes...? If you are in the US, it was noted long ago that it was seen as being ok to be eccentric in Europe in a way it often has not been here in the US. [Events since Nov. 2016 have escalated some aspects of conformity control.]

If your thesis is with regard to something other than the meaning of "free will" in religion, I would welcome more of what you are getting at.

With respect to the traditional meaning, it is all about choosing how you react to things which you often cannot control...choosing to do or not do something, regardless of pressures etc.

I am sorry you are not feeling as special as you are... 😣

Specialyouare · 36-40, F

1) You have to exist first before you can “ask” to exist, or ask for anything for that matter.

3) Yes, social conditioning and using the pleasing, productive, and harmless as the example.

4) Plain survival of the fittest, survival of the one that is found “convenient, submissive, and useful”.

5) Yes the traditional meaning is to choose from the options in front of us, where I’m getting at is that we didn’t choose these options or raw materials to work with in the first place, we were still forced to adapt and they want to trick us into thinking we are “free” when we are not.

Thank you for your kind comment 😊

SomeMichGuy · M

@Specialyouare well I was merely reading you Yoda-speak name lol

Specialyouare · 36-40, F

😊

Mamapolo2016 · F

What do you make of those who don't adapt and conform?

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Angeleyez · 51-55, F

@Mamapolo2016 I think many ppl get these two mixed up. I found your responses to be very well though out.

Mamapolo2016 · F

@Angeleyez Thank you. Every time I look at your name I mentally pronounce it as Angel eye yezz, then remember again it's Angel Eyez. I wouldn't sign on with me if I were you.

Specialyouare · 36-40, F

Even if there were a million universes, we still didn’t choose or make them as well as we didn’t make or choose ourselves at coming to exist. We do have options, options to choose from but that we didn’t predispose in the first place. We have a limited choice but not an absolutely free choice. Regardless of the number of options since you have to exist first before you can ask for anything, none of us chose to exist, hence we are each trapped in our own entity that wants to avoid greater pain and seek pleasure.

Mamapolo2016 · F

You consider yourself controlled because you lack the courage to swim against the tide. Yes, there’s a price.

You consider your existence within the narrow confines of your perception because you lack vision.

For all you know there are infinite universes with infinite options, yet you prefer to waste your talent, if you have talent, whining about the paths you can see here instead of blazing new trails.

It wasn’t long ago that exploring the skies was not an option, never mind space and the ocean depths.

People with vision didn’t whimper about being landlocked and earthbound. They did something about it.

You did not choose to exist. True. You CAN choose not to exist. I don’t advocate that, I think it’s a dreadful waste of possibility. It’s a version of the user rules on websites. “By continuing to exist, you accept the rules set forth below.”

Or change them. One.

My side of this conversation is over. I don’t court negativity.

kodiac · 22-25, M

Free will is religions excuse for anything bad that happens.

fazer1k · 56-60, M

We have a bit of free will in there somewhere but, admittedly, it doesn't sound like much when you put it like that!

Specialyouare · 36-40, F

@fazer1k It’s so interesting that when we actually think about it, we aren’t so free huh?

Goralski · 56-60, M

I have free will to choose any channel on d TV

Specialyouare · 36-40, F

It’s an option set in front of you: A TV with different channels. You can choose from the channels that are there, and you may invent and create a channel with the resources you have today but we were born into this. None of us chose the options, the raw materials, or the world we would be born into or have to work with.

SW-User

I believe in free will. If the multiverse represents all available power then we as its constituents are entitled to claim a portion of it as our own. That this would consist of voluntary actions is explainable in terms of our possessed intelligence being purposed to more than survival.

Specialyouare · 36-40, F

I am writing about how none of chose to exist, as we are here because of an action our parents took. We didn’t choose our mind, body, brain, the world, all the world contains, the ways this world functions with its rules, regulations, and ways that existed prior to our birth. Something has to exist first before it can ask for anything hence none of us asked to exist, we just do. And ultimately we have no free will because we didn’t choose any of it in the first place, not even the apparent and limited options that are in front of us.

Teggy

Free Willy was a dope movie...

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