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ArishMell · 70-79, M
By no means all mid-20C children's stories were like that; and you cannot sweep centuries of many countries' various traditions up in one bundle.
Those written from that time onwards certainly weren't; but you have to remember that if your experience of the much older, European-tradition fairly-stories was out of Disney pseudo-sentimentality by Victorian mawkishness, that is nothing like the originals!
My parents had kept a compendium published in the 1930s, that included some translations, with graphic illustrations, of some of [i]Der Struwwelpeter[/i] poems written in Germany in 1845. They were morality-tales aimed at children, making their point by absurd levels of hyperbole - and some were really horrible.
Looking that title up simply to verify the spelling, I found [i]Der Strewwelpeter[/i], translated, is apparently still in print, rather surprisingly perhaps. Though they are most certainly [i]not[/i] the "MERRY STORIES AND FUNNY PICTURES" - in capital letters - that Frederick Warne & CO, New York, tries to claim. Unless you think that as I remember happens in one of them, it is "merry and funny " to have your fingers amputated by a supernatural figure with a giant pair of scissors.
Those written from that time onwards certainly weren't; but you have to remember that if your experience of the much older, European-tradition fairly-stories was out of Disney pseudo-sentimentality by Victorian mawkishness, that is nothing like the originals!
My parents had kept a compendium published in the 1930s, that included some translations, with graphic illustrations, of some of [i]Der Struwwelpeter[/i] poems written in Germany in 1845. They were morality-tales aimed at children, making their point by absurd levels of hyperbole - and some were really horrible.
Looking that title up simply to verify the spelling, I found [i]Der Strewwelpeter[/i], translated, is apparently still in print, rather surprisingly perhaps. Though they are most certainly [i]not[/i] the "MERRY STORIES AND FUNNY PICTURES" - in capital letters - that Frederick Warne & CO, New York, tries to claim. Unless you think that as I remember happens in one of them, it is "merry and funny " to have your fingers amputated by a supernatural figure with a giant pair of scissors.
Dshhh · M
Often the art is astounding, gallery worthy.
But sometimes, i find some disturbing ideas
The orignal Grimms fairy tales are pretty
Dark.
Some 19th and 20th century american and british ones, show Significannt bigotry
But sometimes, i find some disturbing ideas
The orignal Grimms fairy tales are pretty
Dark.
Some 19th and 20th century american and british ones, show Significannt bigotry
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Dshhh · M
@ArishMell they do. This can be said of many of the big minds of the past.
But i hold that we cannot condem, the past, especially since many worked so hard to advance,
Jefferson, the slave owner gave us,"all men are created equal" i will not toss him out because of his adherance to the normal of the day.
But i hold that we cannot condem, the past, especially since many worked so hard to advance,
Jefferson, the slave owner gave us,"all men are created equal" i will not toss him out because of his adherance to the normal of the day.
SW-User
This is not just "before the '40s". It's one of the famous Grimm's fairytales, most of them, if not all, have their roots in medieval Europe. Which makes it "normal" to be creepy.
SW-User
@AmmieBell Oh I get that. I was just talking about this specific fairytale as it really is a very disturbing one if you think about it.
AmmieBell · 18-21, F
@SW-User they are. Though Red Riding Hood and Hansel and Gretel are both a bit higher up there for me lol.
SW-User
@AmmieBell Red Riding hood FOR SURE!!!!
I'm telling you, medieval Europe = sick place.
I'm telling you, medieval Europe = sick place.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Yeah.....Folks obviously took great delight in freaking the little-uns out at some point didn't they.
AmmieBell · 18-21, F
@Picklebobble2 for sure. My favorite when I was little was the Velveteen Rabbit, which was much tamer than some. But even then, they basically said that all toys were alive, and at the end a bunch had to be burned because the little boy who owned them got sick. I didn't catch on that it meant they would die as a toddler, but by around five I was like "wait a second..."😂
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Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@AmmieBell 😳jeeeeez !
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F
The past is a foreign country, they do things different there ;)
NightsWatch · M
heck you should look into children's nursery rhymes / scary as f