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I Am An Mra

http://manboobz.com/2013/10/18/paul-elam-of-a-voice-for-men-in-his-own-words/

This is a great link to the thoughts and words of Paul Elam. Any MRA supporters out there care to comment ?
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bluelady1021
JB wrote: "Your smoke screen won't work ladyblu. Its in the bill in black and white."

my response: Oh really JB. Well prove it.

1. Show where it states in the bill "in black and white" that if this bill becomes law it "would require anyone accused of rape to present proof that they got consent there by shifting the burden of proof from the accuser to the accused." And don't just imply things or make assumptions. Prove that what you are claiming is actually written in "black and white" in the bill.

2. Show where it states in "black and white" that this bill actually applies to rape charges and that when someone is legally charged with rape they will be required to present proof that they got consent, and as a result when the case is tried the burden of proof will shift from the accuser to the accused. Prove it instead of just claiming that something exist that doesn't as you so often do.

JB wrote: "As for your second comment. You wanted equality with men Im giving it to you. A woman's life and safety is no more valuable than a man's. So why should he put his life and safety on the line for someone else simply because he is a man and the person in trouble is a woman. That doesn't would like equality to me."

my response: I have never said that women's lives are more valuable than men's. Everyone's life is valuable, and that is why good, caring, honorable, unselfish people often will do what they can, including putting their lives and safety on the line at times, to help people (not just men or women) if they can to try to keep them from being raped, murdered, beaten, robbed and other things that will damage the victim regardless of whether they are a man or a woman. Why would a good man who is seeing a man who is smaller than him and does not have a weapon, but is stronger than the woman he is trying to rape, not jump in and try to help her. Because he is selfish and uncaring? Women help men and do things for them all the time. Women (and I am sure your wife does things for you) cook for men, care for their children, do their laundry, care for them when they are ill, take them to the hospital in an emergency or call 911, try to step in and help or call the police if they see them being beaten, robbed, and other things, and sometimes support them if they cannot get a job and are on the verge of losing everything. Good men also care for women and help them when they can when someone is threatening their safety.

Equality does not mean that people are identical. Anyone who thinks that is an idiot. Most men are stronger than women and can fight better than they can. Most women are more nurturing than most men and can care for them and their children better than they can. Men and women are also different in many other ways as well. Equality isn't about treating men and women exactly the same in every instance. It is just about equal pay, equal benefits, equal rights, and things of that nature. If you think it means that women and men should be treated exactly the same in every respect you are an idiot. Do you treat your wife and daughter, and other female family members and friends the exact same way that you treat your male family members and friends? I seriously doubt it, but if you do I feel very sorry for them, because I am sure they don't do that kind of thing to you.
bluelady1021
And just so you know, I have been practicing martial arts for years. As a result, I have jumped in a couple of times and helped men that I didn't love or care about who I saw being robbed. I have also yelled at men who I saw fighting with men and beating them to let them know that I was calling the police so they better knock it off. I don't just ignore those kinds of things and walk away. My husband is the same way. We will do whatever we can to help men and women who are in danger or need assistance regardless of whether or not we love or care about them, or even know them. So I guess we feminists who care about people and want to help them are not egalitarians then are we? I guess I don't see men and women as equal do I? (eyeroll and snicker)
westsideblues1
Yea he thinks he is the latest and greatest Messiah.
bluelady1021
I agree with everything you have written saint (as always). People who aren't feminists and are actually vehemently against feminism claiming that they know how almost all feminists think and behave, and dictating how we must think and behave in order for us to actually be feminists, is ridiculous. I would never do the same. I would never tell MRAs you all think and act a certain way, and if you don't you clearly aren't an MRA. People are individuals. I have never met any people who think and act exactly the same way, including identical twins who are more inclined to do so than anyone else because they have similar DNA - LOL. If someone chooses to be part of a particular movement like feminism that is their choice, and someone who is against that movement looks like an ass when they tell them that they can't possibly be part of that movement because they don't think and act the way that the ass who is against the movement thinks that they should in order for them to be part of the movement. I will use the comparison that JB likes to use . . . it is like a member of the KKK telling a black person that they can't possibly be a black person unless they think and act a certain way - LOL.
bluelady1021
JB has been back here on EP since I wrote what I did above arguing that his claim I put up a smoke screen isn't true, and pointing out that he needs to prove that the bill states what he claims it does "in black and white". As usual all we are hearing is *crickets*.
westsideblues1
jackass will say and do anything even at the risk of placing him self in harms way to make feminist look wrong .he is an idiot!!!
westsideblues1
yep word for word!!!!!!
westsideblues1
bluelady I don't for one second believe you are the kind of person who

" puts up smoke screens!!! "
bluelady1021
Putting up smoke screens is something we continuously see anti-feminist/MRAs doing. Once again I am seeing protection and hypocrisy.