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I Am An Mra

http://manboobz.com/2013/10/18/paul-elam-of-a-voice-for-men-in-his-own-words/

This is a great link to the thoughts and words of Paul Elam. Any MRA supporters out there care to comment ?
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JackBarnesMRA
If ffb is a credible source of information on the mrm why hasn't a single one of his articles on the mrm been published by his former employers? Also, why is he no longer employed by any of these mainstream media organizations? If ffb is correct then why do mainstream media writers like Barbara Kay write articles in support of the MRM? Why does she still work for mainstream media publications but ffb doesn't?
JackBarnesMRA
" investigative journalism and even that is iffy because it depends on if the journalist is into integrity and objective thinking, and actually gets "evidence" "

That is why he has no credibility. His evidence is at best quotes taken out of context and at worst manufactured. His thinking is anything but objective. These two are a testament to his level of integrity.
JackBarnesMRA
Are articles stick to facts and provide links to the things that are discussed in the articles so that a person can go a check for themselves. Basically the opinions in the articles are back up by facts. Facts that you can check for yourself. We don't need to make shit up. The truth is all we need. We don't need to take quotes out of context. Feminist quotes are enough all on their own.
Ffb has to manipulate the truth to fit his world view. Our world view is determined by reality. That's the difference between manboobz and avfm. That's the difference between feminism and the mrm.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
I notice you haven't commented at all on EP about Elam's tax evasion and directorship being suspended yet. Why is that? Also you haven't said anything about Elam pocketing donations from MRM supporters to fund his unemployed lifestyle. I would love to debate those two points but you seem to be avoiding passing comment. Scared your hero isn't all that he cracks himself up to be?
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
Barbara Kay on the Steubeville rape case.

" Barbara Kay Helenaz • 9 months ago

First of all, ours is not a rape culture. If it were, our girls would be walking around in burkas. Second, it is my impression that the sex that goes on at these parties is not considered rape most of the time by either girls or boys, and that partnering up and swapping around is considered normal party behaviour in some places. Third, girls getting blind drunk at such a young age is something new, and it is my impression as well that they are doing it in order to gear up for having sex at these parties because it is what they think it is cool to do, even though they really don't want to. If guys thought they were raping girls, and they certainly know the penalty for rape, is it conceivable they would be flashing photos of themselves online doing it? Sorry, much too easy to pin it all on the guys. You're not helping these girls by subtly indicating that it is perfectly acceptable behaviour to be drunk and having sex with multiple partners in full view of their peers. If it is rape, then it should be called rape before it goes online. But the pattern is that it only gets called rape when the girl is slut-shamed."

No matter how you read this, it is rape apology . Jackie boy applauds her for these comments, cos Paul Elam told him to.

I paticularly liked her ironic comment about rape culture, and why there isn't one. Ypu couldn't make this shit up.
JackBarnesMRA
Rape culture doesn't exist. Never has in the united states.
JackBarnesMRA
Tax evasion? Dictatorship? I don't know what you are talking about.
Paul Elam is retired. He lives off of his retirement. Yes he does receive a salary from avfm but it isn't much.
JackBarnesMRA
And yet Kay is a well respect writer for a major Canadian news publication.

You should listen to her interview with Erin Pizzey and Dean Esmay. Erin and Barbara talk about women's sexuality and rape fantasies being one of the most popular sexual fantasies for women.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
Dictatorship?.....what a misguided idiot you are. Try reading some of my posts before you comment. He is a director of AVFM llc and he has not filed tax returns. You are such a sad bastard you don't want to know the truth.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
Fantasies are not realities...clear enough for you?

You like to believe there is no difference. You are very wrong.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
"Rape culture doesn't exist. Never has in the united states."

Plenty of slaves used to get raped by their owners. Do you deny that as well?

Rape apologists like you always deny the existence of a culture in which rape is deemed acceptable. Then you go on to say things like "she was asking, no, begging to be raped"
JackBarnesMRA
Sorry. Directorship.
Prove he hasn't filled a tax return. Avfm is a nonprofit.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
Avfm is an llc. Paul Elam is named as a director. He claims to have two staff members. On another post the information about filing a tax return has been posted complete with a link. I don't need to prove it. It's a fact.
JackBarnesMRA
" Where is your information and research that backs up that line of thinking?"
Anyone who takes their personal safety carelessly is asking for trouble. This includes women. Trouble includes but is not limited to rape. If you leave your front door unlocked while you go on vacation you are asking to be robbed. I don't think we need a scientific study for that.
"Where is the research done on women in bars that deserve to be raped?"
I have never said that. Paul has never said that. You are allowing your emotions to interfere with your reading comprehension.
"Where is the research that jury nullification of rapists (despite overwhelming evidence) Paul Elam says will help male victims? "
Jury nullification will force our judicial system to give the accused a fair trial. This will help everyone.
JackBarnesMRA
How is ffb lying about MRAs helping anyone? Remember we are talking about mantits.
In order for men and women to achieve equity under the law and in the eyes of society feminism must be removed from its position of social and political power. This will be achieved by revealing the true nature of feminism to the public. This is achieved by presenting the public with examples of feminist dogma, thinking and actions plus presenting the public with the types of legislation feminists have pushed through our government. Example is the current bill being discussed in California. This bill if it becomes law would require anyone accused of rape to present proof that they got consent there by shifting the burden of proof from the accuser to the accused.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
You said" some women are asking to be raped".

Tell me the circumstances you are talking about. You made the stupid statement, not me.
JackBarnesMRA
" Anyone who takes their personal safety carelessly is asking for trouble. This includes women. Trouble includes but is not limited to rape. If you leave your front door unlocked while you go on vacation you are asking to be robbed."
A person is responsible for their property. A persons body is that persons property. You lock your doors. You keep your valuables safe. A persons body is their most valuable possession. Don't leave it vulnerable to theft. Rape is form of theft.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
I posted Elam's comments on women asking, no begging to be raped on a seperate story. You might want to comment on that.

Rape is nothing like theft.
Rape is a crime against the person, not against a person's possessions. A rape apologist like you would try to compare an apple with a banana though. Fail.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
Looks like I was telling the truth, doesn't it? I will gracefully accept your apology as usual..........(tumbleweed drifts by slowly........)
westsideblues1
yep!! that is all they do is "'vouching!! "
westsideblues1
hey jack ass .... its common sense to take ur personal safety into consideration, but hey this is life !! shit happens!!! DUH!!!!!