I say leave him be. He insures a continued growth and positive strengthening for feminism and an actual catalyst for men of strength and integrity to address the legitimate concerns of men. Jack's sort of man has always existed. Weak cowards with a low aptitude and lower standing among the masses. They will always exist...be it ever so meaninglessly.

Yes Hope. I am a bad man. Im not women's slave or servant and I don't bow and cater to them. Not only do I view women as my equals and not my superiors I treat women as adults and expect them to act like adults. To quote one of my favorite MRA speakers, Karen Straughn, women need to grow up. I am a very bad man and proud of it.

" The fact she was insane only goes to strengthen the case that feminism is a mental disorder."
And the fact that notable feminist icon have called Valerie one of the greatest feminists of her time.

He doesn't say anything the AvfmRAs aren't already saying.

Johnthenutter thinks women are born mentally ill.

PaulNomaam thinks referring to women as cunts is activism.

The embarrassing part about the MRM is that Jack doesn't represent their "fringe" ...Jack is seriously pretty common.

I mean their leader Dean Esmay is literally a HIV Denier.

Valerie Solanas wasn't a feminist. So they might want to do a quick fact check.


However, if the MRAs want to compare body counts they need to first talk About Marc Lepine ( murdered fourteen women and wounded ten women... http://manboobz.com/2013/12/06/mens-rights-redditor-remembers-the-victims-of-marc-lepine-by-complaining-were-all-supposed-to-cry-about-how-hard-it-is-to-be-female/ & http://bobstruth.blogspot.com/2007/12/happy-st-marcs-day.html?m=1 & http://jezebel.com/5464971/in-canada-mens-rights-groups-gain-power-and-a-blogger-supports-femicide) , George Sodini (shot & killed 3 women http://amptoons.com/blog/2009/08/06/mens-rights-activists-anti-feminists-and-other-misogynists-comment-on-george-sodini/) Anders Breivik ( convicted murderer of 77 people  http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html & http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/a-war-on-women & http://manboobz.com/2011/07/24/norweigian-terrorist-anders-breiviks-manifesto-reveals-him-to-be-a-rabid-antifeminist-with-views-strikingly-similar-to-many-mras/ & http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jul/27/breivik-anti-feminism)


So the MRAs need to stop pointing fingers outward and start doing a bit of self reflection and "housekeeping" of their own.

Ambi (dante) is actually right about one thing. Valerie didn't like other feminists.

But other feminists did like her.

If the foiled plans of one feminist-identified Schizophrenic condemns an entire trans-national cultural, economic, and political movement, does the raping, mutilating, and killing by MILLIONS of men, of women, animals, the environment, each other, condemn an entire sex? (Awkwaaaard.)

Usually I remind the MRA types that it's radical feminists who are the MOST kind to men, since we believe all of this is something men are taught and often forced into doing, not who they actually-are, but then I of course remember that MRAs flatly-deny factual reality, which is why they're MRAs. :D

Ladyblu.
Feminism has succeeded in removal of due process rights for men on college campuses. Currently there are several men from different parts of the US suing their respective universities over these violations. Hopefully we can get the supreme court involved.
One feminist had the nerve to be upset when the monster created by the sisterhood set its sites on her son.
http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324600704578405280211043510?mg=reno64-wsj#articleTabs%3Darticle
I feel sorry for her son but not for her. She helped do that to him. Karma is a bitch.

<p>I wonder if jack ass, daughter ever got raped would he be on the rapist side? and blame his daughter for being raped?</p>

bettyannlesly maybe a another fake profile of a mra. she took down many of my comments. even though she claimed she wanted to create a on going dialog of mra and feminist views...

Lovefeminist. You fixation on my daughter is a cause for concern.

<p>&nbsp;<p>Lovefeminist. You fixation on my daughter is a cause for concern.</p><p>
JackBarnesMRA YOUR infatuation with young teenaged girls 13/ 14 year olds on e/p is a greater concern !!!!</p><p></p>

JB wrote: "What happened to her son is a direct result of the dear colleague letter. It is literally the dear colleague letter in action. The dear colleague letter is why this happened to her son. The dear colleague letter is pure feminism. Feminist wrote it. It was put in place by a feminist."

my response: Which dear colleague letter are you referring to JB, because there are many? If you are referring to the one that was written in relation to the University of Montana (I think that's what it was), you know you are wrong because I pointed out when you wrote about that months ago that it was rejected and never actually put into place in relation to all colleges and universities.

JB wrote: "I feel sorry for her son but not for her. She helped do that to him. Karma is a bitch."

The woman he is referring to wrote: "Thankfully, I happen to be an attorney and had the resources to provide the necessary professional assistance to my son. The charges against him were ultimately dismissed but not before he and our family had to suffer through this ordeal. I am of course relieved and most grateful for this outcome. Yet I am also keenly aware not only of how easily this all could have gone the other way—with life-altering consequences—but how all too often it does.

Across the country and with increasing frequency, innocent victims of impossible-to-substantiate charges are afforded scant rights to fundamental fairness and find themselves entrapped in a widening web of this latest surge in political correctness. Few have a lawyer for a mother, and many may not know about the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, which assisted me in my research.

There are very real and horrifying instances of sexual misconduct and abuse on college campuses and elsewhere. That these offenses should be investigated and prosecuted where appropriate is not open to question. What does remain a question is how we can make the process fair for everyone."

now my response: I honestly don't think feminism is what brought this about. This legislation was put into action by the Office of Civil Rights. The Office of Civil Rights is not just made up of feminists.

In addition, this legislation is gender neutral and applies to both males and females. As a result, if a boy did the same thing and made these allegations against his ex girlfriend as a form of revenge, his ex girlfriend would go through the exact same thing as this woman's son did.

Its silly how when something like this happens to a boy many MRAs automatically assume that the law or rule that made it happen only applies to males and as a result was created by feminists without reading it and understanding that the majority of the time it applies to "PEOPLE" meaning both males and females.

If this happened to an MRA's daughter or son I would feel sorry for both of them, and so would many other feminists because we are about equality and fairness for everyone.

Did they actually air the 20/20 interview with Pauly Elam ?!? Someone link me!

His interview was never broadcasted (20/20 probably saw him as a misogynistic ass like he obviously is, and didn't want to give him the opportunity to spew his venomous rhetoric). Here is manboobz comments and quotes which point out how misogynistic Elam (spelling is opposite of "male" which is quite telling) is:

http://manboobz.com/2013/10/18/paul-elam-of-a-voice-for-men-in-his-own-words/

Here is a portion of the interview which is the only part of the interview that abc ever provided:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBF8w5tVBJA

I think its very ironic that in this interview Elam he points out that men's roles really have not changed and they have not responded to the changes women have experienced, and that have come about, as a result of feminism, and that men have "lived their lives without reacting to much of it". This could be seen as a very negative and difficult thing for women, and not men, to have to deal with.

Women have begun being expected to work and provide financial support for their family, but because some men have ignored these changes and not "reacted" to them they still expect their wives and girlfriends to be submissive to them and to do all of the "women's work". I have known numerous wives who became absolutely exhausted, particularly after having children, because they had to work full time, but were also still expected to provide virtually all of the care required for their children, their households, their pets, paying bills, cooking, doing laundry, etc. because their husbands still felt that their only "roles" were working at their jobs, taking out the trash (not all of them even felt that was their responsibility), and doing occasional yard work (if they didn't hire a gardener to do it because their wife now made enough money to make that an alternative). A lot of husbands still expect their working wives to do all of the "women's work" while the husbands do very little except devote their primary time and attention to their job. They expect their wives to have the children cared for, the house clean, and dinner waiting for them when they come home from work. Then while the wives are still working their asses off doing virtually everything else that needs to be done after serving dinner, the husbands head over to their couch or recliner after they finish eating dinner and take a snooze while watching TV, or they sit on their computer playing games, etc. (not doing any work) until bedtime. When the wives finally make it to bed and are exhausted beyond belief and immediately fall sound asleep (sometimes with their clothes still on), the husbands get pissed because they expect them to throw on lingerie and have hot, passionate sex with them. What a horrible role for men - NOT!!!!

The other thing that is ironic about what Elam is blabbing in the interview is that men "now have to react because marriage has become an unsafe ground for them". When the interviewer asks why he feels that marriage is now an unsafe ground for men Elam goes on to claim that it is because "we have corrupt family courts that practice bias against men and fathers routinely and men are waking up to this - that they don't get a fair deal". The interviewer asks him why they don't "get a fair deal" and he claims its "because of the preferential bias for mothers in custody".

First of all, based on what he is saying the only men who would feel that "marriage is now unsafe for them" would be men who assume that they are going to end up divorced and fighting for custody. This is not what happens to all men, and it isn't what most men (or women) who get married expect to happen. Most men and women don't assume they are going to get divorced so marriage is unsafe

Second of all, most men don't feel they should have custody of their children if a divorce occurs, and that a court that awarded primary custody to the mother is a "corrupt family court", that practices "bias against men and fathers routinely", because they are awarding primary child custody to the mother. Most men want their wives to be awarded primary custody, and they just want joint custody so they won't be primarily responsible for the care and upbringing of their children. They don't see the courts that do this as being corrupt and preferentially biased against them because they also recognize that the majority of the population (including the courts) know that most mothers are the ones who provide the best care and upbringing of children (its genetic since we are the ones who give birth) so they should get primary custody.

I honestly think, as many other people do as well, that Elam comes off like a fool for claiming these kinds of things. Particularly since he has never been married, has never had any children, and has never been a marriage and family counselor. He will come up with any excuse he can to try to make it look like men are being treated unfairly and unjustly, while completely ignoring that women have been dealt with unfairly and unjustly for centuries which is exactly why feminism came into existence in the first place, and still exists.

" AVFM is not a charitable institution and the financial records are not a matter of public record, nor will they be.I am happy to disclose that our expenses are significant. From dedicated servers to legal expenses to image rights to extensive licensing for web technologies, subscriptions to internet media platforms, travel and expenses for activism, and other numerous expenses, the coffers are always at or near empty with the start of each fundraiser.Does this include paying me? In a word, yes. Donations are used to meet my personal living expenses (with the help of a supportive partner), especially as I have not yet figured out a way to do this 14-16 hours a day and also hold a full time job. " ---Paul Elam

http://www.avoiceformen.com/allbulletins/on-the-question-of-financial-transparency/

Paul Elm used to run the blog, and still runs the YouTube channel called 'The Happy Misogynist"


http://resistingthemilieu.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/thehappymisogynist-blogspot-com-screen-capture-2011-12-10-10-59-36.png

Well, well, well . . . apparently Paul Elam has lied (once again) about never being married. Public records indicate that he has actually been married and divorced four times:
http://i.imgur.com/bPWkSJL.png
http://i.imgur.com/UzUJKhs.png
http://i.imgur.com/ii8mTSl.png
http://i.imgur.com/i5BAAEg.png
http://i.imgur.com/j06W7jI.png
http://i.imgur.com/UzUJKhs.png
http://i.imgur.com/j06W7jI.png
http://i.imgur.com/mg4KgjT.png

"Oh what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive".

Good times ... Now we also have him engaging in tax evasion...which caused A voice for men llc to be forfeited.


Voice For Men LLC
5615 Portal Drive
Houston ,TX   77096
713.900.9459

Year Established 2011
Employees 2
Annual Revenue Estimate 110,000
Year Established 2011
Paul Elam Principal
Employees: 2
Annual Revenue Estimate: 110,000
Location Type: Single Location
State of Incorporation: Texas

http://www.manta.com/c/mxgrwh0/a-voice-for-men-llc

Paul David Elam
2938 Holly Hall St  Houston
Texas 77054-4131

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/Houston/paul-david-elam/133503830.aspx

From AVfM :

You can send check or money order to: 
Paul Elam
5300 N. Braeswood Blvd #4-196 
Houston, TX 77096

http://www.avoiceformen.com/other-options/

White Page listing:

Mail Boxes Of Braeswood
5300 N Braeswood Blvd, # 4, 
Houston, TX 77096

http://m.superpages.com/bp/0016167369

Verification of same identity;

"Paul Elam President, A Voice for Men, LLC."

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/163711730/AVFM-Letter-to-the-Maine-Supreme-Court---A-Voice-for-Men

"Welcome to avoiceformen.com. This website is owned and operated by A Voice for Men, LLC."

http://www.avoiceformen.com/policies/terms-of-service/

The locations are 2  to 6 miles apart; a 6- 10 minute drive according to Google Maps.

Also of interest;

Business Name: A VOICE FOR MEN LLC
State Tax ID:32045558759
Filing Date:11/07/2011
Inactive Date:02/08/2013

Filing History
DATE: 02/08/2013
DOCUMENT NO. 465240549088
FILING  TYPE Tax Forfeiture*
EFFECTIVE 02/08/2013
ENTRY 02/09/2013

*Tax Forfeiture means Paul D Elam did not pay the required "franchise taxes" to the state of Texas, according to Texas Law, "Liability of Director and Officers," Section 171.255, this allows the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts to hold corporate officers and directors personally liable for taxes owed to the state by a corporation that has had its corporate privileges forfeited for failure to satisfy its franchise tax obligations. Also, if they continue to do business while the corporate privileges have been forfeited, the corporate officers and directors and possibly the shareholders may expose themselves to personal liability for other debts as well.

Furthermore, A Voice For Men LLC is now stripped  of its right to bring any  affirmative relief, other than an strictly passive defense against judgment.   See Tex. Tax. Code Ann. §171.252 (Vernon 2008) ("providing that if the corporate privileges of a corporation are forfeited under this subchapter, “the corporation shall be denied the right to sue or defend in a court of this state.").  

http://www.houston-opinions.com/law-personal-liability-of-directors-officers-of-corporation.html

http://rgvisionmagazine.com/2013/07/legally-speaking-a-word-about-franchise-taxes/

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/TX/htm/TX.171.htm

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/tx-court-of-appeals/1202642.html

You guys really need to copy these links/posts by ambi and blue and keep moving them up front just in case JB comes in and has his usual hissy fits and decides to flag it down cause the truth might be more then he can handle or he starts his non stop white noise posts to push these back...... Lets keep these right up front where they belong!! Yeah baby!!

bLUELADY ..

I also think its pretty interesting that the Manosphere "The Spearhead" site has ousted Elam because they think he's pretty dumb too - LOL.

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/10/18/adios-paul/
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LOVEFEM
I read one of the comments, one of them quoted Paul, using kittens as a symbolic gesture for killing ...I wonder if that's where jack ass got his idea from. when he depicted him self with a kitten in his youtube video to intimidate women/ feminist .

For jack to pluck someone out from a list of females who apparently likes killing people, to use as an example to convince himself that all feminist suffer from that same mentality is so not true!............... jack ass is obviously functioning from same murderess thinking, " projecting" !! he is the one who wrote a story about how he and his wife are locked and loaded with guns waiting to shoot feminist! he is the one who used/abused a innocent kitten as a example of what he would do to feminist /women. HE IS PROJECTING HIS OWN THOUGHTS ONTO FEMINST/ WOMEN!....... HE IS THE ONE WHO WANTS TO KILL PEOPLE! he has admitted it! jack is mentally disturb! funny thing is he doesn't even see it !!

I think this may be a another fake jack profile .they wrote one story, about how they like cats ...>




ajalakokai

just to let every one know some one from the mra grp made a fake profile of mine, here is the link and name its under...a href="http://www.experienceproject.com/member_board.php?m=-1993069576" target="ep_blank">EP Link lovefemlnst

Funny. Freedom (gypsyblu) makes the claim that I want to kill people, that I want to kill feminists, that my wife and I want to shoot feminists and that I abused a kitten. However she offers no evidence to back up her claim. Her friend ambi (dante) seem to follow me around and take screenshots of everything I say not just here but on other websites. So where are the screenshots proving those accusations.

The whole avfm tax fraud thing seems to center around the following phrase." FILING&nbsp; TYPE Tax Forfeiture*&nbsp;"Dante (ambi) posts several links in her comment talking about Paul, avfm and tax fraud. No a single one of those links contains " FILING&nbsp; TYPE Tax Forfeiture*". So where did that come from? Did she just make it up or is she parroting someone else? Off to do more research.


Ok I found a website that mentions what dante said.
http://www.wysk.com/index/texas/houston/6xeagdc/a-voice-for-men-llc/profile
However it says "forfeited existence."