Is there a link between being spanked as a child and having a spanking fetish as an adult?
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beckychandler · F
no, the research consistently indicates it is pretty evenly split -- of adults who develop the fetish very slightly more were not spanked . But the more important statistic is that the overwhelming majority of children who are spanked do not develop any fetish -- except the fetish of responsibility.
Lovelivelaugh · 36-40, F
@beckychandler do you have a link to the research ?
beckychandler · F
@Lovelivelaugh I do, and wanted to cite it, but could not find it quickly and I am on the run. I will get back and post it -- it is important because I am on a quixotic mission to try and stop or slow down the spanking abolitionists and strangely one of the arguments raised is that it causes this harmless fetish -- which is ironic since most of the permissive parenting ideologues are also liberal on sexual revolution stuff -- and are tolerant and think the fetish just fine. I will get back and post links. You can find this easily by googling --the only problem is that there is obfuscation by those who want to ban parental spanking -- so sometimes you have to do some digging.
beckychandler · F
@Lovelivelaugh Ok – I'm back with a little time :)
The idea that parental spanking causes S & M/spanking fetishes is one of those things that are just taken for granted, primarily because Freud found sexual connotations based on the dreams of sixteen neurotics, and this “insight” was eagerly latched onto by permissive parenting advocates who wish to ban parental and school corporal punishment. Accordingly, the first thing they went after was bare bottom spanking, alleging it caused sexual perversions. This way they got their nose in the tent (quickly expanding the claim to brats with covered rears as well). It was effective in not only marginalizing parental corporal punishment, but making it into something dirty!!!! https://similarworlds.com/2327115-I-Am-A-Strict-Mom/587272-The-secular-liberal-permissive-parenting
It is a very effective argument because it seems like it would be true, but there is no evidence to back it up.
First the correlation problem. At least seventy percent of parents spank, but the number of spankos and other neurosis in the adult population does not anywhere near approach that level –that is why I said the only fetish most ended up with, as adults, was the fetish of responsibility. On this problem with the No-Spank research in general (and if you dig into the wealth of material they have they deal specifically with the claim of causation of sexual fetishes) see the link from my SW story on the warning issued by the [b]American College of Pediatricians[/b] (a pediatric association of some 60,000 pediatricians and pediatric researchers)last January on the most recent No-Spank “research”: https://similarworlds.com/2327115-I-Am-A-Strict-Mom/596949-Recently-there-has-been-a-tsunami-of-reports-in
But, looking at those who have the fetish and whether or not they were spanked as children:
In a column in the left-wing journal[i][b] “Counterpunch”[/b][/i] No-Spank sexual therapist [b]Susan Block[/b] writes:
[i]“As a sex therapist, I’ve heard thousands of stories of how being spanked as a child led to an adult spanking fetish, and I have encountered even more individuals who were not spanked as children, but enjoy the erotic rush of child-like feelings they get from being spanked as adults.”[/i][c=#BF0000] http://bit.ly/2i6LSHN[/c]
Researcher [b]Jesse Ray[/b], who is an out and proud spanko, writes:
[i]“In the years I was involved in the Spanking Central(s), I had the opportunity to communicate with (At length and multiple times) thousands of spankophiles…. And certainly the question was one almost everyone wanted to talk about.. would say the vast majority came to believe that they were just ‘wired, that way. No evidence of anything to precipitate their interest.”[/i] [c=#BF0000]http://bit.ly/2wQ5QcX[/c]
The failure of any empirical studies to demonstrate causation or even correlation (and the huge numbers of non-spanked children who grow up with a fetish) led this No-Spank researcher to propose an experiment which might finally prove it: [c=#BF0000]http://bit.ly/2wO0krl[/c] That experiment has not been conducted (I am not qualified to comment on its validity if it was).
The idea that parental spanking causes S & M/spanking fetishes is one of those things that are just taken for granted, primarily because Freud found sexual connotations based on the dreams of sixteen neurotics, and this “insight” was eagerly latched onto by permissive parenting advocates who wish to ban parental and school corporal punishment. Accordingly, the first thing they went after was bare bottom spanking, alleging it caused sexual perversions. This way they got their nose in the tent (quickly expanding the claim to brats with covered rears as well). It was effective in not only marginalizing parental corporal punishment, but making it into something dirty!!!! https://similarworlds.com/2327115-I-Am-A-Strict-Mom/587272-The-secular-liberal-permissive-parenting
It is a very effective argument because it seems like it would be true, but there is no evidence to back it up.
First the correlation problem. At least seventy percent of parents spank, but the number of spankos and other neurosis in the adult population does not anywhere near approach that level –that is why I said the only fetish most ended up with, as adults, was the fetish of responsibility. On this problem with the No-Spank research in general (and if you dig into the wealth of material they have they deal specifically with the claim of causation of sexual fetishes) see the link from my SW story on the warning issued by the [b]American College of Pediatricians[/b] (a pediatric association of some 60,000 pediatricians and pediatric researchers)last January on the most recent No-Spank “research”: https://similarworlds.com/2327115-I-Am-A-Strict-Mom/596949-Recently-there-has-been-a-tsunami-of-reports-in
But, looking at those who have the fetish and whether or not they were spanked as children:
In a column in the left-wing journal[i][b] “Counterpunch”[/b][/i] No-Spank sexual therapist [b]Susan Block[/b] writes:
[i]“As a sex therapist, I’ve heard thousands of stories of how being spanked as a child led to an adult spanking fetish, and I have encountered even more individuals who were not spanked as children, but enjoy the erotic rush of child-like feelings they get from being spanked as adults.”[/i][c=#BF0000] http://bit.ly/2i6LSHN[/c]
Researcher [b]Jesse Ray[/b], who is an out and proud spanko, writes:
[i]“In the years I was involved in the Spanking Central(s), I had the opportunity to communicate with (At length and multiple times) thousands of spankophiles…. And certainly the question was one almost everyone wanted to talk about.. would say the vast majority came to believe that they were just ‘wired, that way. No evidence of anything to precipitate their interest.”[/i] [c=#BF0000]http://bit.ly/2wQ5QcX[/c]
The failure of any empirical studies to demonstrate causation or even correlation (and the huge numbers of non-spanked children who grow up with a fetish) led this No-Spank researcher to propose an experiment which might finally prove it: [c=#BF0000]http://bit.ly/2wO0krl[/c] That experiment has not been conducted (I am not qualified to comment on its validity if it was).