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[center][big][b]For all the Sanders and Hilary supporters...This is what socialism looks like[/b][/big][/center]
[b]Venezuela: Teen Killed in ‘Mother of All Protests’ as Maduro Seeks to Arm One Million Chavistas[/b]

Dissidents participating in what Venezuela’s opposition dubbed the “mother of all protests” Wednesday faced gang attacks, tear gas, and other repressive tactics by state police and civilian militias alike.
Dictator Nicolás Maduro announced a plan Monday to arm as many as one million chavistas seeking to join government-sponsored gangs on Tuesday in anticipation of the protest.

Addressing a socialist rally on Monday, Maduro announced he would begin expanding the ranks of the National Bolivarian Militia, a creation of late dictator Hugo Chávez meant to arm radical socialists in a nation where legally owning firearms outside of such groups is banned.

According to the Fox News report on the rally, Maduro said he was seeking to quadruple the militia’s size from its current 100,000 membership in the short term. The Spanish newspaper El País reported that Maduro was seeking to build a 500,000-strong militia as soon as possible but ultimately sought a million-strong army of socialists to intimidate the opposition into silence.

“We will advance towards the organization and training of one million organized militiamen, trained and armed to defend peace, sovereignty, and the independence of the nation,” Maduro reportedly said.

To calm the military, which the opposition has been actively courting into participating in the resistance, Maduro has also announced something he is calling the “Zamora Plan,” which Agence-France Presse (AFP) describes as “a military, police and civilian operation aimed at combatting a supposed coup attempt” organized by America. Maduro has repeatedly accused the United States generally, and former Vice President Joe Biden specifically, of organizing a right-wing coup against him. He has never produced proof of such a conspiracy.

Maduro has faced growing protests since the socialist-controlled Supreme Court attempted to impose itself as the nation’s legislative body last month, nullifying the power of the opposition-controlled National Assembly. After a wave of protests, the Supreme Court backed down on the ruling, but the government nonetheless prevented legislators from entering the assembly for some days. Following this move, the government also banned Henrique Capriles Radonski – the governor of Miranda state and opposition presidential candidate in the past two elections – from holding public office for 15 years, with little explanation.

Capriles is among the leaders organizing Wednesday’s “Mother of All Protests,” meant to bring together the anti-socialist opposition throughout the country to demand Maduro step down. According to the AFP, the opposition plans “to march from 26 rally points toward central Caracas, a pro-Maduro bastion and the seat of government.”

“We’re scared but we’ve got to do this,” one protester, 55-year-old Carmen Medina, told Reuters. “We’re marching for the freedom of our country.” Speaking to the outlet, Capriles added that he sees the Maduro regime as being “terminal” and protests pivotal to holding “free and fair democratic elections.”

The protest appears to have taken its first victim, a student identified as Carlos José Moreno, either 17 or 19 years old. Moreno was shot in the head in the San Bernardino neighborhood of Caracas, and reports indicate he was not participating in the protest. Witnesses say he was shot in the head by colectivos, unofficial roving gangs who attack protesters on behalf of Maduro.

In addition to colectivo attacks, police used tear gas and rubber bullets on protesters. Capriles himself posted video of a tear gas attack on himself on Twitter.

Among the prominent dissidents protesting was also Lilian Tintori, wife of political prisoner Leopoldo López, who sported a gas mask to protect from tear gas attacks.

“We want freedom for all political prisoners, and the people should decide their destiny with a vote. We want to vote,” Tintori said in a statement. “We want elections now. Presidential, gubernatorial, and mayoral elections.”
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lov2smile · 36-40, F
People who grow up under one form of government, (Usually) accept it, for what it is.
I asked several Londoners recently about their government health care. Some liked it, others did not....some even said: "That's all we know"

In America, My Parents and grandparents and their parents before them have only known the freedom of capitalism.

So I guess, when I read things like this I get scared for my country
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@lov2smile: Are you implying people in the UK would like to get rid of the NHS? Because I find that VERY hard to believe...
Dreammmer · 56-60, M
@lov2smile: Capitalism did not put food on your table and did not comfort you when you needed to be comforted. Your parents and grandparents did not grow up in a pure capitalistic country, the US are very much influenced by Judeo Christian values and laws just to name one other truth.
lov2smile · 36-40, F
@Quizzical:

You said: [i]"Are you implying people in the UK would like to get rid of the NHS"[/i]
Hmmm, not sure how you came to that conclusion.

One might say....Are you comparing Venezuela to the UK?
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@lov2smile: I thought you were, lol
Northwest · M
@lov2smile: [quote]One might say....Are you comparing Venezuela to the UK?[/quote]

[quote]This is what socialism looks like[/quote]

You picked socialism as the common denominator. Are you saying that Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Holland, among others are failures, because socialism is their common denominator?

Or are you implying that capitalism is goodness, regardless of where/how it's applied?
lov2smile · 36-40, F
@Northwest:

YES!!!
Northwest · M
@lov2smile: [quote]Socialism has never worked in the history of the world. Every time it's tried it fails.[/quote]

The three main indexes of standard of living:

1. Meeting basic human needs: medical care, sanitation, shelter, food.

2. Foundations of wellbeing: Education, access to technology and conveniences, and life expectancy

3. Opportunity: personal rights, freedom of choice and general tolerance.

#19: USA
#18: France
#17: Spain
#16: Belgium
#15: Germany
#14: Japan
#13: Austria
#12: Ireland
Tied for #10: New Zealand, Iceland
#9: UK (The NHS is a big part of the UK's placing)
#8: Netherlands
#7: Norway
#6: Sweden
#5: Switzerland
#4: Australia
#3: Denmark
#2: Canada
#1: Finland

We can nuke all 18 countries that did better than us on quality of life/standard of living, but they're all socialist.

A capitalist country? Using today's standards, China, India, Saudi Arabia. (Yes, China, this is not a typo).
Dreammmer · 56-60, M
@Northwest: with all due respect for your personal opinion, please inform yourself about the commonly accepted definition of socialist countries. Norway,Sweden etc are not socialist countries. China is, even though not in a pure form. Saudi Arabia is a monarchy.
Northwest · M
@Dreammmer: I'm afraid it's ALL about personal opinions. Here's the Dictionary definition of socialism:

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

2b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

If you think China is "socialist", then it's been a while since your last visit to Shanghai, or Bejing for that matter. China has layoffs now, just like any other capitalist based economy.

Monarchy and Capitalism are not mutually exclusive. Saudi Arabia is a monarchy, but so is the UK, Holland, Denmark, Sweden...
Dreammmer · 56-60, M
@Northwest: UK, The Netherlands, Sweden and Denmark are democracies. SA is not.
China is still a socialist country.
Northwest · M
@Dreammmer: You are entitled to your own opinion about China. Democracy, however, has no implication on whether a political is in addition, socialist. Iraq under Saddam, was a dictatorship, and socialist.