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they obviously didn't deal with it. living in the land of illegal immigrants, we have more now than ever. 11 million I think i read. lets hope that Trump kicks this in high gear and removes the criminals. And trust me, as you well know, it is not just the Mexicans although their govt has sure labelled themselves given the mass murders in their country

@akindheart: no, "they" have not dealt with it. The numbers are cumulative, but the number of those trying to cross, is lower than it's been in decades.

I also find it a using, when someone says that crime is rampant in Mexico. That would be in comparison to what? Chicago?

@Northwest: well i can tell you without a doubt, the numbers are up. you see, i see and work with them every single day. i see that Obama JUST put into effect the wet foot, dry foot legislature. wonder why that wasn't done 8 yrs ago? i am not trying to pick a fight with you. i am tired of paying fraudulent claims. but thank you.

@akindheart: I don't know what "paying fraudulent claims" means. You'll have to explain this.

Obama did not put into place, the wet foot/dry foot policy. What he did, is terminate it.

The numbers are going up? What numbers? Cumulative numbers? Trump's immigration enforcement policies, are a continuation of the Obama immigration enforcement policies. No change. The only thing, is that he added the "wall", and no one knows what that is. We do have an 850 miles (or so), existing wall, and the policy was to enhance it through electronic measures, which is what's going to happen, because a physical wall, these days, is a hindrance, not and asset to surveillance.

@akindheart:

You obviously know what you are talking about, but....

Don't bother doing research and providing links to Northwest. [b]He'll just come back and say the sites you use are not credible. [/b]

That's his modus operandi.

Meanwhile he'll go to several liberal sites that play numbers into what liberals want them to be and present them as fact.

NW,

You conveniently forgot to mention that obama attempted to give amnesty to millions pf illegals and Hilary wanted to triple that number to garner the vote for democrats.

@lov2smile: I don't come back and say the sites are not credible. I provide links and data, to show that you pasted is false.

For instance, that picture, you posted, from a blog, that claimed that Ambassador Stevens, was raped, tortured and burnt, for seven hours, and that Hillary did not approve a rescue operation.

Pointing out, that this is a lie, is pointing out the facts. You insisting on it, shows what you're made of.

To date, you have yet to post a single credible link, and that points to a defect on your part, not mine.

NW

You said: [i]"To date, you have yet to post a single [b]credible link[/b], and that points to a defect on your part, not mine"[/i]

You just confirmed what I said, LOL

@lov2smile: [quote]You conveniently forgot to mention that obama attempted to give amnesty to millions pf illegals and Hilary wanted to triple that number to garner the vote for democrats.
[/quote]

Rhetoric aside, We've had a couple of amnesty programs.

The first was signed by Ronald Reagan in 1986, and it essentially granted amnesty, to anyone who entered the country prior to 1982, and was willing to come forward. About 3M illegals were granted permanent residence through this program.

The second was under Bush, the 43rd. It prevented the deportation of nearly 50% of the illegal immigrants, under rules involving family connections, community ties, good standing, education, etc.

So, the Obama program is the same as the Bush program, with some minor tweaks. So, to suggest that Obama pulled this out of thin air, is either ignorance, or partisanship.

The Obama and Bush programs, are not amnesty, although they have similar clauses, similar to skilled workers programs, to provide permanent residence, while blocking deportation for some people (but not criminals, and they cannot come back, if they left).

It's like you, re-posting a blog entry, about the President receiving a medal from the Armed Forces. You did it, as if to show that this was unprecedented, when it's actually that was done for every modern President before him, as a symbolic gesture to the Commander in Chief.

You should really do some fact checking, prior to posting.

@lov2smile: You missed the "credible" part. And you ignored the Benghazi example of your posting history.

Do you still insist that Ambassador Stevens was raped, tortured and Burnt and that Hillary prevented his rescue?

How about when you claimed that pregnancy rates are at their highest, ever?

How about when you said that you researched the ACA, for several months, over a 2-year period of time, and when pressed for details, the only thing you can come up with, is a link to a discredited blog, and NOT A SINGLE ORIGINAL THOUGHT ON YOUR PART?

Would you like more? Stop embarrassing yourself.

@Northwest: Northwest, I am in insurance I see the fraudulent claims EVERY single day. and please google wet foot, dry foot. Obama in his last days in office enacted the wet foot dry foot act. he opened the door to the Cubans and boat refugees by repealing this many years ago. and now all of a sudden he puts it back in place.

@Northwest: Northwest, i have firsthand knowledge of how Obamacare works. My brother was on this God awful plan. We almost lost him due to the ineptness of the program. I didn't read about it. We lived it.

@akindheart:

Your narrative, cannot be more wrong. Here's a synopsis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_feet,_dry_feet_policy

And a quote: [b]"In January 2017, the Obama administration announced the immediate end of the policy."[/b]

I have no idea what fraudulent claims have to do with this discussion.

As to the ACA, the comment was not to you. However, now that you opened up that can of worms, what was your brother's insurance plan, prior to the ACA?

@Northwest:

Okay, here we go again....Let's be clear.
[b]It's NOT about the picture...It's about the incompetency of Hilary Clinton.[/b]

I can't be more clear than that. You say it was a combination of factors. You are right!!! It started and ended with Hilary Clinton.

[b]The truth of the matter is, that four Americans died in Benghazi and it was Hilary's fault.[/b]

You continue to use that picture to discredit me, But you are embarrassing yourself. You keep harping on a picture and I'll keep telling the American people the truth....that's the difference between you and me.

No diversion, just the facts.

[b]4 Americans died in Benghazi because Hilary was unqualified and failed in her job.[/b]

@lov2smile: [quote]I'll keep telling the American people the truth[/quote]

That's your faulty narrative. Fact: there wasn't a single bit of truth in that post. Not one.

@Northwest:

Unfortunately for you and the rest of the liberals...The American people know the truth. Even the people that supported Hilary (The honest ones that is) said Hilary was at fault but they voted for Hilary because of the alternative.

Look, all you need to say is you voted for Hilary because you believed she would govern better than Trump. bit Nooooooo, Hilary's not a crook, it was the republican witch hunt.

Most liberals I know in my office are at least honest. You sir, are not!

@lov2smile: Here you go, as misinformed as ever.

Not every politician is a Jimmy Carter, but there's a difference, between what accuse Hillary of, and reality, and the latter, is that she's a typical politician.

And the misinformed part, is what you keep saying about why I voted for Hillary versus Trump. The alternative to Hillary, is horrible, and his twitter feed, confirms it, but she's not going off killing political opponents.

Poor Donald, there's a witch hunt against him, because the press reported on "exactly" what he said. But, it's perfectly OK to spread fake news, about a child kidnapping ring, that feeds into a child prostitution ring, and the whole thing is run and executed, by Hillary and the Podesta brothers.

NW,

No president, and I mean not a single president in American history tried or attempted to give [b][i]blanket[/i][/b] amenisty to illegal immigrants based solely on the fact that they (broke the law to get here) and live here.

So stop trying to deceive people into thinking that Reagan or Bush or Bill Clinton, made any such attempt, that is deceitful and you know it.

You must be a very lonely man......A keyboard warrior sitting in your pajamas all day, researching the internet to find all these liberal sites that tell you all your want to hear.

@lov2smile:

[quote]No president, and I mean not a single president in American history tried or attempted to give blanket amenisty to illegal immigrants based solely on the fact that they (broke the law to get here) and live here.[/quote]

I am truly baffled by the non-metric, that you just introduced. the fact that they broke the law to get here? By definition, every single illegal immigrant, broke the law to get here, otherwise, they would be legal immigrants.

[quote]So stop trying to deceive people into thinking that Reagan or Bush or Bill Clinton, made any such attempt, that is deceitful and you know it.[/quote]

It's really sad. You either have no clue what history is, or you're lying to your teeth. It is an absolute, and an undeniable fact, that Ronald Reagan, granted amnesty to every single person, who wanted it, and who was not a criminal (other than illegal entry into the US). The total "legalized", for [b][u]NO OTHER REASON OTHER THAN BEING ILLEGAL[/u][/b], was about 3M people. If they had another other reason, other than being illegal, it would have been used.

Here's the payload:

"[b][u]legalized illegal immigrants[/u][/b] who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and had resided there continuously with the penalty of a fine, back taxes due, and admission of guilt; candidates were required to prove that they were not guilty of crimes, that they were in the country before January 1, 1982, and that they possessed minimal knowledge about U.S. history, government, and the English language"

Here's a link: http://bit.ly/1Ogo38u

It's called the Immigration Reform And Control Act of 1986

Perhaps you rely on "alternative facts"?

[quote]You must be a very lonely man......A keyboard warrior sitting in your pajamas all day, researching the internet to find all these liberal sites that tell you all your want to hear.[/quote]

Assumes facts not in evidence, but you're like a broken record.

Following are links to the last 10 threads you started. Every single one of them, is from one of the "alternative facts" websites. Each one of them, is either grossly exaggerated set of claims, or flat out lies:

http://bit.ly/2j2e6OL
http://bit.ly/2jQ26of
http://bit.ly/2khrYtK
http://bit.ly/2iRT761
http://bit.ly/2jdKFNj
http://bit.ly/2j2cPrh
http://bit.ly/2khikHA
http://bit.ly/2k57i4N
http://bit.ly/2iRQaT7
http://bit.ly/2k5iCOg

And that's just the last 10 threads you started. I don't recall a SINGLE original thread from you. Nearly every single one of my threads, is original thought.