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I Sometimes Wonder What the Hell Is Wrong With People

[center][big]Rape is Natural … really?!?[/big][/center]


Well, this is actually my second attempt at writing this story. The first didn't meet EP's community guidelines and my appeal was unsuccessful. However, EPKimi told me to resubmit so here I am. I suspect the reason the first story was rejected was that I quoted extensively from the EP conversation that prompted me to write this story in the first place. Therefore I've removed most of those quotes and replaced them with a link to where you can find the original conversation (for as long as EP allows such filth to stay in place).

So what is all this about you ask? Well, I met someone on EP a few weeks ago by the name of Pywacket. His views on life could not be more different than mine, which, if you know me, means I wanted to understand him better. He posted a story describing a hypothetical future proof (in the form of a news article) that God does not exist. In his story, he asks Christians, “What will you do then?” So I responded, as I often do on this subject. If you want to read the original story by Mr Pywacket and all the story comments in context, go here: <a href="http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Believe-In-God/5627569" target="ep_blank">EP Link</a>

What followed was 179 pages worth of comments filled with hatred and venom and false claims and just unbelievable animosity toward anyone, especially me, that professed any faith in the Christian God. That’s fine. I run into attitudes like this every day here on campus; I’m used to it. But then Mr Pywacket started digging through my profile and for some reason latched onto my story from 2012 about my ex-boyfriend trying to force me to have sex.

He took excerpts from my 2012 story and its comments and started including them in his responses. Yup, in our discussion on whether or not God existed and whether or not Christianity was a vile and wicked faith, he started sprinkling in disgusting references to that day. I allowed myself to get way too involved in that conversation and I have since pulled out of the conversation completely. However, I need to draw attention to one aspect of it, because I have heard this same attitude toward sexual assault here on campus as well and it concerns me.

There is actually a school of thought out there that we are all just animals anyway and rape is part of the natural order. Yup, you read that right. I have heard these words uttered in person by guys standing in front of me. Of course, in person, such people profess that they would never do such a thing and that societal constructs prohibiting such behavior are mostly a good thing, but that it is none-the-less part of the natural order. Yup. I’ve had these conversations with guys. It’s scary.


It’s scary because it accepts that sexual assault is inevitable and natural and simply part of being the animal that we all are. I don’t want to put words in Mr Pywacket's mouth, so here are a couple of excerpts:
-- “If you weren't such an ignorant religious fanatic you would understand that a hard-wired biological imperative millions of years in the making, and passed down through the evolution of the species was driving his thoughts, his speech, and his actions. And there isn't a damn thing wrong with it. Your body is 'designed' through evolution to be raped and survive it.”
-- “Nature rewards female for being raped.”
-- “Not that long ago, he would have ignored your protests and simply overpowered you, as men have done for 200,000 years. And you would have gotten over it, and wanted him to do it again and again and again.”
-- “Had he accomplished the rape, you would have been all upset because of your beliefs, but you would also have the memory of how good it felt.”


Yes, folks, you read that right:
-- my body was designed through evolution to be raped,
-- nature rewards me for it,
-- if my ex-boyfriend had been successful I’d have wanted it (rape) again and again,
-- and I would have been left with fond memories
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In my original story I stopped about here intending to let you, the reader, draw your own conclusions and to hopefully start a dialog. However, I’ve since had another week of interaction with Mr Pywacket. In this extra fun-filled week, he has expressed some observations specifically about childhood sexual assault. He gets offended when I call them opinions or beliefs or even conclusions. They are simply his observations of fact. These next quotes (below) come from comments he made on my story about my love for my girlfriend: <a href="http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Want-To-Find-My-Soulmate/5672914" target="ep_blank">EP Link</a>

The story comments drifted far from anything remotely related to the original post and it bothers me that a story like this is ruined by this type of crap. I am very close to violating one of my personal standards here on EP and just going and deleting all his comments on that story. For now, they are there. So here you go, Mr Pywacket on the topic of childhood sexual abuse:
-- “So the millions of girls who had sex with adults and DIDN'T have your experience are all lying? The millions who did NOT have health problems? The millions who loved the sex? The millions who looked forward to it? All wrong?”
-- “I have told you to go to Pandora's and read what the experts have to say. About the girls who had sex starting when they were very very young ... and loved it. And didn't want it to stop. Little girls who instigated it. Initiated it. Yes, they even knew they shouldn't be doing it. But they wanted to. And they did it for years. And never got caught.”
(These comments were directed to some else, not me, who had survived childhood sexual abuse.)
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So where does this leave us? How do we respond to attitudes like this? And when I say “we”, I am not referring to “Christians” or to “Humanists”; I am referring to any of us that believe in a just society. I am referring to any of us that believes we all, as human beings, have a right to feel secure in our surroundings.


I currently live on a fairly well known, northeastern USA university campus. My school goes to great lengths to ensure that we all know how to be safe because there is an unacceptable level of sexual violence on American campuses, but that doesn’t even compare to what is happening around the world.
-- We are now one year out from the kidnapping and sexual enslavement of the 200+ school girls in Nigeria by Boko Haram. I hope you’ve tweeted the hash tag: #BringBackOurGirls. I did. Many times. And will continue to.
-- When ISIS stormed Yazidi Iraq, many of the men were forcibly converted to Islam but the girls were sold into sexual slavery to be raped again and again. I wonder how many of them have fond memories of their rapes as Mr Pywacket would have us believe.


I am posting this simply to raise awareness and spur discussion. I think Mr Pywacket’s perspective on and attitude toward rape is dangerous. If he were an isolated voice, then I wouldn't give it another thought, but, as I stated above, I hear this attitude here on campus. I think it is partially behind the problem we have on American university campuses now. Sexual assault is treated by some as inevitable or excusable or simply part of the human condition. Treating it as such lessens the strength of the “society constructs prohibiting such behavior” and essentially encourages it. Yup, this is just my opinion and I have no data to back it up, but I do believe attitudes like Pywacket’s to be very dangerous.


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aarontkdbball
Sara,

I'm so sorry that you have to encounter people who espouse such ridiculous views. The problem is that this guy takes one thing that is true (i.e., that rape does occur in nature in various species, including human beings, unfortunately) and then draws ridiculous conclusions and makes ridiculous statements based on that singular thing.

By his logic, murder happens, so everybody should just "suck it up," and if you get murdered, then you should "enjoy it" and "accept it." That obviously makes no sense. Just because some people do bad things (e.g., rape, murder) does not mean that anyone (or we, as a society) should just accept it.

To the contrary, we should do our best to think about what is right and just within the constructs of our society (e.g., civil liberties, but to understand and appreciate that one person's rights end where another person's rights begin).

Also, let's assume, arguendo, that all of us men are "hardwired" to have the potential to rape. I don't believe that, but let's assume he is correct just for the sake of the argument. Does that mean that we all should? Does it make it right? Of course not. Even if we are all "animals" and "hardwired" to possibly do bad things, does not mean we should and does not mean that we should rise above it and use our brains.

I do believe that human beings are animals, and like all animals, we have evolved (or, at least, most of us have evolved -- when I hear stories about people like this who try to defend rape, it makes me question how evolved those people are). We, as a society, have declared it wrong for one person to rape another person, and anyone who does so risks going to jail for a long time (where that person would belong). Period, end of sentence. What this guy has said is simply contrary to law.

This guy is obviously welcome to his opinions, and he is even free to voice his opinions. We are obviously free to our opinions, and we are free to ridicule him for his backwards, cave-man, sexist, ridiculous opinions. We are also free to ignore and block him. Life is too short to waste time dealing with people like him. But, most importantly, if he were to ever try to act on his beliefs, I hope that (1) whoever he tries to rape is well-versed in martial arts and/or self-defense and kicks him out of the gene pool, and (2) he still goes to prison for a long time. We simply have no place in our society for people like that. So long as he confines his ridiculous views to words only, he can remain a part of our society, no matter how repulsive he is, and those of us who are civilized and evolved need to just tune him out -- that is the price we pay for the first amendment -- and he can continue to say ridiculous things to any audience who is willing to listen. I, for one, am not willing to waste any time with people like him. He is a lost cause. He is not someone who will change. It is obvious from his comments. I recommend you not waste any further time with him. Instead, you should spend your time interacting with people who are positive, supportive people in your life, and to the extent you want to engage in charity, I recommend you save such time/energy/effort for those more deserving and more likely to learn and grow from your efforts.

Best regards,
Aaron
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
Thanks Aaron! Something tells me you know a thing or two about the law! ;-)


I've thought about his logic chain as well and reached the same conclusion. Thanks for the explanation.
aarontkdbball
Loser. Blocked. See how easy that was, Sara?
Kman4You
Well stated and totally agree