@Qwerty14 Yes, you do. You may be cucked into subservience, but that's you, not everyone else. Everyone has the right to defend themselves.

And an eye for an eye leaves the first person with one eye. I poke your right eye, you poke out my right eye, I poke out your left eye, and you're blind and unable to poke out my left eye.

@Mmafreak Self defense is about blocking and evading. If you wanna fight someone then save it for the Octagon lol

@Sicarium Ok man. You rock that Old Testament mentality like a Jew or Muslim. But Christians don't believe in hitting back. Turn the other cheek mate. Core belief of JC

@Mmafreak Doing whatever it takes? I don't think you can claim that. Not even courts would accept that. If you have the option to walk away that's always the option a judge would expect you to take.

@Qwerty14 Yeah, I'm not a Christian, so. Good job with the assumptions.

@Qwerty14 You've obviously never heard of stand your ground laws.

Why do you not want people defending themselves? Why you want people to be willing victims?

@Sicarium @Mmafreak I assumed you were both atheists which is why I brought up religion. Y'all needa know how most of the world sees the issue. Half think eye of an eye (Islamic countries mostly) and half think turn the other cheek (Christian countries mostly). So who would you rather stand with? Personally I stand with Christians on this one. You guys can agree with Muslims if you like

@Sicarium Stand your ground laws are a joke. You know most of the world was shocked that the US introduced them right? Guy shoots an innocent kid and your response is "let's protect the shooter". That scenario doesn't even refer to defence. It was a man shooting someone on suspicion of a crime (which was false). Biggest joke if you're using that as an example of self defence

@Qwerty14 "Most of the world doesn't have individual rights, so you guys need to understand that individual rights don't work and here's an Islamophobic emotional ploy and strawman because I'm an idiot."

Again, why do you not want people defending themselves? Why do you want people to be willing victims? And why are those so difficult for you to answer?

@Mmafreak You aren't talking about a rare situation where someone is about to kill you. You said:


Anyone. Violent manner. You have the right. So if a woman slaps you, hit her back. If the bouncer throws your drunk ass out a bar, deck him. If the police arrest you, time to go MMA on his ass.

Good luck defending yourself (pun intended) in court. No one is going to side with you on that.

@Qwerty14 Still avoiding those questions? Funny how that works.

@Mmafreak I backed you into a corner with that one. You had a harder time though arguing the position of acceptable violence so don't feel too bad. It's like people arguing the death penalty. You have the task of convincing murder is ok so you start with a pretty big handicap

@Sicarium Sorry mate what questions? I don't recall you asking me anything

@Qwerty14
He said unironically while he avoids questions he's too much of an idiot to answer.

@Sicarium Mate what questions?

@Qwerty14 I've asked twice, scroll up, assuming you're not being your usual dishonest-hack-self.

@Mmafreak I didn't say a man can't defend himself. I said you don't have the right to fight someone just because they hit you. If a woman hits you, do nothing. Walk away. Hold her. Block her attack. So many options before "fight her" should jump into your head. If you honestly believe she might kill you and the only way to stop her is by fighting then you have the option. But it isn't a God given right. To claim it is just excuses us to hit each other whenever we like crying like children that "they hit us first"