I like men, but I couldn't eat a whole one.

@MarkPaul Why is it enough?

@MarkPaul patently absurd... and, frankly, not worthy of you.

@SW-User It's enough because we (society) are doing all we can. And, like I said, I'm sick of hearing about this issue. It's confusing enough to know how a man is supposed to act with literally everyone complaining to be a historical victim.

#MeToo

@Yulianna I'm not saying there shouldn't be continued progress. It's just that it's enough already with the obsession of giving women a leg-up... so to speak.

@MarkPaul Nothing to do with MeToo. This is a different thing. I get it is hard, and basic rights and wrongs and people taking to extremes is confusing.

This is basic human rights.

And you (society) saying you're tired of hearing it really isnt moving on or self correcting anything.

@SW-User Perhaps you misunderstood. Our (society) interest in migrating to a point where everyone is equal remains strong and on-point. But, this constant screeching of how women have been victims on top of everyone else crying about being victims is drowning out the root cause of the problem to reach actual solutions. Pity and sympathy are not solutions. Tbh, it has just become grating to me (personally). I'm as empathetic as the next guy (and woman), but there's just too many causes that demand to be priority #1 and that doesn't work for me or society. In the meantime, I support Lynn Cheney and I want to extend #MeToo to cover excessive whining by people who seem to love to call themselves out as victims. I think that will be good for everyone concerned and I think we (society) need to start thinking about everyone instead of obsessing over specialized groups.

@MarkPaul But until certain things are addressed it can't.

@SW-User So, another set of conditions and threats. That's how it's going to be?

@MarkPaul It cant be brushed under the carpet. We can move on, but unless it's dealt with and acknowledged then we can't.

@SW-User That's my point. It IS being acknowledged. It HAS been acknowledged. Progress is being made. Rejoice instead of complaining and expecting everything to conveniently fall into your lap.

@MarkPaul Im not. And it isn't.

@SW-User Well, I'm happy with the progress we are making. And, I feel like I'm doing my part.

@MarkPaul I think there’s something that you’re missing though.

You may be doing your part. You may be an entitled white guy who does all the right things with every female or disenfranchised person you meet.

But just about every one of those people has a daily interaction, or even more frequently, with someone who doesn’t.

You complain about the “screeching”. Consider the likely reality that each complaint is rooted in someone’s literal experience: evidence that your claims of progress are exaggerated.

I do think there’s too much lip service and not enough action.

But whining about having to listen to it is tone deaf.

@JoeyFoxx I'm ALSO sick of the bandwaggoneers who copy-cat, "tone deaf" to literally show-off how in-tune they think they are with the conformist opinion of the day.

Every single person on this planet, now, before us, and most likely after our time has run out here can and will complain about some injustice they have suffered at the dirty hands of entitled people. And, that's valid. It's just that I am no longer interested in walking on eggshells to console their carefully styled sense of injustice, feelings of being mistreated, and crushed feelings.

Keep in mind, I am NOT saying women have not been unequally treated by current events and history. I am not saying action should not be taken to bring into balance a state of equal justice. I am the voice of those who are part of the change, but feel put upon and put down to have to provide meaningless apologies, carefully constructed consoling statements, and greeting card sentiments to validate the victim mindset.

If you are truly unhappy with the progress being made, bellyaching with meaningless warmed-over niceties with a tone-purity test does absolutely nothing. NOTHING. I don't empower victims. I give power to ideas that change the world. It's time to realize there is a difference between the two. You want to help...? Learn AND practice that difference.

That's how conservatives feel. @MarkPaul

@MarkPaul [quote]It's just that it's enough already with the obsession of giving women a leg-up...[/quote]
That actually harms women.

In the UK, one major polictical party tried to get more women into Parliament by forcing thier constituancy parties to field female candidates for election. The were called "Blair's Babes" (q.v.) That did result in more female MPs for a short time but most quickly dropped out due to the demands of the job.

The other major party requires women to compete with men [b]on an equal basis[/b]. The only female Prime Ministers we've had (Margraret Thatcher and Theresa May) both came from that party.

When we make special arrangements to make it easier for women to fill a particular role, women are going to be forced into that role whether they want it or not. For example, when women are entitled to much longer periods of maternity leave than men are to paternity leave, then women are much more likely to be forced to take career breaks to be the primary carers. Also, of course, employers are likely to try to find legitimate reasons to employ men rather than otherwise equally capable women.

@MarkPaul who said you have to walk on eggshells?

I don’t.

@JoeyFoxx Then stop telling me my commentary is tone-deaf. It's actually in-tune and on-target.