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So India has almost 60% of its slum dwellers testing positive for covid antibodies.

there was no mass death count beyond what is normal for people living in slums so is covid not that dangerous or does it have to do with the wide usage of HCQ? India is the world's largest supplier of HCQ and like India other countries that have a HCQ regimen also have low death counts from covid. Even neighboring countries have a lower covid death rate where HCQ is used than their neighbors who don't have an HCQ regime. Do you suppose there is a cause and effect going on here?
RedFlower · F
we dont know... but there is no indication that hcq has any positive effect. there is no proof the other way around either... but the same can be said about bacon, lawn mowing or watching the movie "godfather"... one has nothing to do with the other
Elessar · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955 You're confusing Numbers (biblical book) with numbers (mathematical concept). The latter isn't clearly your area of expertise, lol
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Elessar You seem to be the only one confused. You can't even read an actuarial table and draw the right conclusion.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955 I can't?
[quote]Meta-analysis of 3 studies (n = 210) on viral clearance assessed by RT-PCR showed no benefit (RR, 1.05; 95% CI, 0.79 to 1.38; p = 0.74), although with a moderate heterogeneity (I2 = 61.7%, p = 0.07). While meta-analysis of 3 studies (n = 474) showed a significant increase in death with HCQ, compared to the control (RR, 2.17; 95% 1.32 to 3.57; p = 0.002), without any heterogeneity (I2 = 0.0%, p = 0.43).[/quote]
Elessar · 26-30, M
HCQ being given since early March over here and still 30k+ deaths. Plus you said the virus isn't dangerous for you, why would you bother about a cure?
Elessar · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955 If 30k is bad, from the top of your "engineering" degree you should know that 154,442 (US) and 90,383 (Brazil) are respectively more than 5 folds and 3 folds worse.

Italy has an HCQ protocol as well. But aside from that, random controlled trials exist exactly for assessing whether a treatment works or doesn't, and HCQ failed them for covid-19.

Again, why bother about HCQ? Is the virus dangerous also for you now?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Elessar What is the percentage of deaths. In the US they estimate the actual death rate of covid is about 1/2 of what was recorded since there was huge incentive for the misreporting of disease. However you missed my point entirely. I am not saying the US has handled its covid out break well. Nor do I think Brazil did such a good job of it. However if you go to a neighboring country such as Columbia or Guiana you will see that their death rate is much lower. Why? No one can be certain but in Columbia and Guiana HCQ is over the counter like cough drops. Strange coincidence don't you think. Yet in Italy and the US and Brazil no HCQ because according to their health 'experts' it doesn't work. Well statistics tell me that those experts are not very expert at all and should be fired for incompetence. Maybe even charged with wrongful death or negligent homicide.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955 Italy used HCQ, can you even read? What is the average age of people in Italy compared to the average age of people in the U.S. and Brazil? How many are the non-HCQ available treatments when Italy was hit, and how many are them now, when the others haven't even reached the peak in their curve as of yet? The alt-right dumbfucks are the ones causing a genocide, at the screams of "muh freedom" or "muh economy", or now "muh HCQ". Italy and Italians thankfully are dealing with the local outbreak much, much better and responsibly than overseas, our curve is essentially flat since May in comparison. But keep speaking about things you don't understand.

You still haven't responded: why do you care about HCQ? Is the virus dangerous also for you now?
SW-User
India has 1.5 million cases so far and it’s still under lockdown, what are you even talking about?
Elessar · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955 Yeah, I can imagine which "news" you must have watched. Maybe living in two of the biggest hotspots (respectively one almost extinguished thankfully and one still active) gives us a more accurate view of the situation than what you happen to (mis)read online or on TV, don't you think?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Elessar It was a report out of India. Translated in to English obviously. So funny that you are so clueless. Have a nice non existence.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955 Yeah, sure, a "report". Then link it, let's see. ;)
meJess · F
Not too many overweight people in Indian slums
meJess · F
@hippyjoe1955 you're absolutely right it must be HCQ, no other factors like diet, climate, cultural differences or standard of living should be considered. Sorry I thought this was a question not an advert.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@meJess Given that the same results are seen in other countries..... I bet you couch has a seat belt too.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955 Yeah it works so well it failed all the RCTs lmao
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
HCQ is used in conjunction with steroids. The steroids are what is working.
revenant · F
Maybe they are eating or drinking something which helps their immune system
SW-User
What’s hcq
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@SW-User It an old drug that you can buy over the counter in many countries. Its primary usage is to prevent malaria. However it has been shown to be effective in fighting other illnesses like lupus and arthritis and SARS. The present Covid outbreak is a form of SARS. Not quite the same virus as the one in 2005 but something very similar. It has the same pathology. Dr Fauci called HCQ a wonder drug and a vaccine in 2005 when it was shown to control SARS 1.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@SW-User Hydroxychloroquine, an antimalarial drug constantly re-summoned by the alt-right because they can't admit their management in countries they were running in (U.S., Brazil, etc) sucked. Actual research suggests it has no significant benefits in human trials, even if administered early ([u]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7215156/#sec3title[/u]).

[quote]No benefit on viral clearance but a significant increase in mortality was observed with HCQ compared to control in patients with COVID-19.[/quote]

 
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