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Am I an atheist checklist...:

•Do I believe in evolution? ✔️
•Do I believe in natural selection?✔️
•Do I believe gene mutations are completely random?........................... no check.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
I believe NATURAL mutations are random and the ones that increase a species viability tend to breed into that species; most non-positive mutations simply die off. BUT, given science these days, it's obvious we humans can create specific mutations artificially.

But re the atheism question -- I am one, but I know many people who believe in evolution/natural selection and consider it simply the manner in which their God works his plans for the world.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@GardenSage Part of being an atheist is the admission that there will always been things we don't and can't know and not needing to try and explain them away with magic and myth. People tend to have a problem dealing with that uncertainty and so look to religions for definite answers to feed their need for security.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
Ironic amount of faith you have...@ChipmunkErnie
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@GardenSage I have faith in the fallibility and irrationality of humanity. ;)
GardenSage · 36-40, M
Let’s talk about chromataphores on cephalopods and how with consciousness, a specimen can adapt in seconds to its visual surroundings in the same manner that takes other species generations to replicate.
It’s not the same as genetic evolution, but is in itself a genetic evolution.
Is this not a modern example of how consciousness can correlate to physiological changes? What other similar surprises will mutations conjure up...

And I’m not saying I’ve got the answers.. I’m merely pointing out what we don’t know and that what we don’t know may be more significant than we ever imagined.

Also I’m alluding to consciousness being a clue that life isn’t random.
SW-User
Atheism has nothing to do with any of those things you listed. You can be an atheist and reject evolution. It isn’t common, but certainly not contradictory.

When someone identifies as an atheist, it simply means they reject the God claim. You cannot surmise anything beyond that.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
Perhaps you’re still missing the point and it frustrates you because you need to think you’re intellectually superior. Perhaps I’m not outlining the criteria of what could make one atheist but using a common thought process by atheists to allude to an entirely other point. But you clearly lack abstract thinking and only seek to correct what your narrow perception concludes is wrong.@SW-User
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@SW-User perhaps examine what I could be implying by not checking the third box. Then realize that you’re an idiot and stop correcting people because you look like a baffoon.
SW-User
@GardenSage I’m fully aware of the point you’re trying to make, which is why I take issue with the fact you mentioned atheism at all.

“a common thought process by atheists”. That’s what I take issue with, because I don’t think that’s true in the slightest. Evolution and atheism have no connection. Your question would be better served by not conflating the two.

To address your point. You seem to accept that some mutations are random and others aren’t. But how are you distinguishing between the two, and what’s driving the mutations you deem to be “not random”?
MerryMilkshake · 22-25, M
how else do they happen?
GardenSage · 36-40, M
And the order listed was meant to show a closer look at each item in succession. Evolution is a broad term.. it can happen in any number of ways hypothesized.. natural selections are part of the equation, but I wanted to allude that it’s not the only element... dna mutations play a part and many are certainly random, but many mutations that lead to micro and macro-evolutions as well as highly specialized creatures seem to me to be far too lucky for it to be random.... I mean there are insects which look identical to leaves or sticks or even other insects and behave specifically within that ecosystem...

One example I find interesting is the bone on the paw of a panda... I think natural selection and random mutations would be highly coincidental in this case.. yet obviously not impossible.. but highly improbable.

The thing is that the “highly improbable” happens all the damn time! In species all around the globe by the millions
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GardenSage · 36-40, M
Let’s talk about chromataphores on cephalopods and how with consciousness, a specimen can adapt in seconds to its visual surroundings in the same manner that takes other species generations to replicate.
It’s not the same as genetic evolution, but is in itself a genetic evolution.
Is this not a modern example of how consciousness can correlate to physiological changes? What other similar surprises will mutations conjure up...

And I’m not saying I’ve got the answers.. I’m merely pointing out what we don’t know and that what we don’t know may be more significant than we ever imagined.

Also I’m alluding to consciousness being a clue that life isn’t random.....
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ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@GardenSage No idea what the comment meant, so I just played around with it. I'm bored. :)
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@ChipmunkErnie lik why tf do I get blocked for this? Haha some people
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@GardenSage You never know around here. ;)

 
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