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Muslims Have Dreams and Visions of Jesus [Spirituality & Religion]

Muslims have been encountering Jesus in their dreams and visions. They've experienced His love for them and they're receiving Him as their Lord and Savior. Praise God, He is good.

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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Sitting one day in his church office a pastor heard a gentle knock on the church door. He opened it to see a young muslim man standing on the step. The muslim asked the pastor to see the church's interpreter of dreams. The pastor smiled and welcomed the muslim man into the church. The muslim man quickly stepped out of his shoes and stepped carefully over the threshold. Again the pastor smiled and escorted the young man into his office. Whispering a prayer for guidance the pastor asked the muslim to tell him about the dream. The muslim said that in the recurring dream he is running from something evil. He doesn't know what it is but he is terrified. He runs and runs until he runs into a wall. He can't go around it. He can't go under it. He can't get over it. Suddenly there is a Voice that says "I AM the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE. Nobody comes to the FATHER but BY me. Then the man wakes up. The pastor opens his Bible and shows the muslim John 14: 6. The muslim begins to tremble and in a terrified voice asks the pastor what he must do. The pastor led him in the sinner's prayer and the man left the Church a Christian. His family soon became Christian as well as he testified about his deliverance. He has never had the dream again.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@GodSpeed63 Insofar as I a fallen creature can communicate to another fallen creature what I communicated is indeed true. The young muslim man was bothered by a dream and became a Christian by speaking the sinner's prayer from his heart. I had nothing to do with his conversion.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 [quote] I had nothing to do with his conversion.[/quote]

I never said you did. I was talking about his testimony that you shared.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@GodSpeed63 I wasn't particularly talking to you when I said I had nothing to do with his conversion. This was the work of the Holy Spirit alone and anyone who claims credit for that is not to be trusted. Of all the people I have led in the sinners prayer I can honestly say that I never led one of them to that place. It is the work of the Spirit and not mankind to open the eyes of the blind.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
It does not worry me at all if someone is religious, converts to any one religion from any other religion, becomes religious having been an atheist or agnostic, or indeed stops believing in any god and abandons religion.

It's entirely a personal choice, and we are lucky enough to live in countries whose constitutions and laws allow us that choice.

However, before congratulating Muslims for becoming Christians, or even implying they believe in Jesus' teachings, it does help to recognise[b] and accept[/b] two points:

1 A basic difference between the two faiths is that Islam (which means something like "surrender [to God]") does not accord divine characteristics to Jesus. It respects him as a gifted teacher, but nonetheless entirely human. So a Muslim cannot view Jesus in the way you do but remember too that that Jesus was a Jew who lived in a wholly Judaic society (apart from the Roman occupiers, who would have followed their own culture's pantheon).

2 For many Muslims, not only converting to any other religion or none but even appearing to support it can be personally dangerous; and in Islamic states, such conversion is treated as apostasy and a very serious, even capital, criminal offence.

Someone else on SW, evidently from an un-named theocracy, has said that in her country even simply discussing atheism would mean arrest and your being lucky to survive long enough to be tried on a charge of trying to lead others from God.

To be fair that shows the weakness of humans - those in charge in such lands - rather than of religion. Anyway, God can look after Him/Her/Its-self and does not need mere humans for protection or support. Unfortunately, mere humans can be remarkably cruel and selfish, and some use their religion to excuse such behaviour; be it within the family or at national level.

Ironically, the Prophet Mohammed apparently enjoyed debating theology with Christians and Jews alike.

It's also worth recognising[b] and accepting[/b] your own versions of your own religion are yours. They are may be shared by others, but they are not universal and cannot be claimed as "right".


[Edited to clarify.]
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 Not about religion? Eh??? What is it about then? Picnics in the park?

I can see why God might not approve of "organised religion"! However, ignore whether a given faith is "organised" - and Islam is not "organised" if that means by a central directorate like the Vatican or the Anglican Synod. That is not my point.

My point is that a Muslim would respect Jesus, but find reconciliation with God directly, because [i]Islam does not accord divine status to Jesus[/i]! In its view, that would compromise God's nature. It is not for us to say who is right, as it is "right" only for the individual believer in whichever faith.

I realise you find it difficult to see and accept, but your own path to your God is not necessarily that of others to theirs.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@ArishMell [quote]Not about religion? Eh??? What is it about then?[/quote]

You didn't read my whole post, did you?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 Yes, of course I read it, them in fact; and have just re-read them to see what I had apparently missed. They are both the original and your point about God "hating organised religion" and statement of your belief in Jesus. And I still don't understand how that's not about religion.

If it's not about religion as such, I can only conclude it's about power, not that of God but of one human being over others. Is that why God does not approve of religious institutions?
Yes they certainly have. There are lots of Muslims coming to Jesus. I saw that video and I recommend it to anyone. It is very good and the truth.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
I fear you have either misunderstood their religion or they have converted to Christianity - a very dangerous thing for them to do in these days of worsening religious fundamentalism.

Islam proper essentially worships the same god - the one called God - but recognises and respects Jesus as a very wise teacher, NOT as a divine being. I understand this is to avoid compromising God's uniqueness and mystery.

I am told (by a friend who knows a number of them) that the Plymouth Brethren hold an essentially similar belief, so aligning themselves more with the ancient Hebrew religion than the later Christianity that diverged from it.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@ArishMell [quote]I fear you have either misunderstood their religion or they have converted to Christianity - a very dangerous thing for them to do in these days of worsening religious fundamentalism[/quote]

I haven't misunderstood their testimonies. Jesus doesn't want to convert them from one religion to another, He wants them to know the truth and be saved.

 
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