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How can people find atheism intellectually satisfying? [Spirituality & Religion]

Its a shallow 16 year old philosophy.
CharlieZ70-79, M Best Comment
[b]I麓m not an atheist.[/b] My believe is based in faith and only.

To try to find intelectual reasons for it [b]is, rather, a poor conception of the intellectual, a poor conception of God, and probably both.[/b]
Not a point of view satisfying or even interesting for a three years kid.
[b]The pretension of a "scientific" and / or "logic" basis for faith is not even shallow, it麓s empt[/b]y.

BTW, if you call "Logic" to else than Math symbolic logic, you are missing the very concept of it.
Gouzi26-30, M
@CharlieZ Is English not your native language? Your knowledge seems good, but your expressions unclear.
Gouzi26-30, M
@CharlieZ Still its good to be corrected.
CharlieZ70-79, M
@Gouzi True, I麓m from Argentina.
My first language is Spanish.

SW-User
living in fear of the sky daddy's wrath isn't juvenile?
Gouzi26-30, M
@SW-User Think before you comment. That i think atheism is intellectually unsatisfying doesn't mean I think the kind of theism you are describing is intellectually satisfying.
SW-User
@Gouzi yes, I'm sure your intellect is far superior to mine.
Gouzi26-30, M
@SW-User Honesty is the right way forward. :D No, but your thinking is illogical.
SW-User
Because it opens you up to the idea that morals can be found through logic and reason, rather than a 2000 year old book that was modified a thousand times, whose followers ignore most parts of it anyways. Religion has outlived its usefulness.
Gouzi26-30, M
@SW-User That may be sociologically true. Yet, that doesn't make it morally true.

Also, i do not think what we consider right and wrong is necessarily what is best for "technological" advancement, or what "furthers evolution. If this were sociologically true, then every belief would have to further those causes throughout history.They obviously don't.

If you're saying waht is morally right is what furthers evolution and tecehnological advancement, then this is just an assertion and not an argument for why this is the basis of what is right and wrong. Its not self-evident.
SW-User
@Gouzi It is self-evident. If I told you that you were in denial you'd spout off about a river in Africa.
Gouzi26-30, M
@SW-User Well, at least we discover everyones dogmaticism eventually.
AngelofFail26-30, F
atheism isnt a philosophy.. its only the disbelieve into a divine being
Quizzical46-50, M
It's not a philosophy
Kwek0041-45, M
16 year old?
It's just a consequence of the enlightenment movement that believed in ratio, the scientific method, anti-dogmatic ideas and the search for objective truths. It's been around a bit longer then 16 years 馃槄

And you probably found people that question the idea of a God before the 17th century too. 馃槄 Science and the religious claims on God never really went well together.
hunkalove61-69, M
Have you read Genesis? It's a story for children.
MasterLee56-60, M
@hunkalove actually it is pure fantasy
GwydionFrost56-60, M
When you realize that atheism isn't a philosophy, but an indicator of a philosophy-- skepticism --you gain intellectual satisfaction.

Starvation is the lack of eating.

Atheism is the lack of deity.

Just as there are many different ways and reasons why one might be starving, the same is true for atheism.
Ishtar22-25, F
I don't find the idea of an invisible man who dwells up above in the sky, spying on our sins particularly deep or mature.

But yeah, different people different concepts.
ValentineM
Not sure why you make a link between being intellectually satisfied and your faith.
Gouzi26-30, M
@Valentine I need my beliefs to be intellectually satisfying as its my character.
ValentineM
@Gouzi I would not make a judgment on your viewpoint. Just as I wouldn't equate atheism to a 16 year old philosophy.
Gouzi26-30, M
@Valentine Why not?
SW-User
Maybe because no war have been fought in the name of atheism. And atheists don't seek validation from followers of other religions.
Can you tell me why you don;t find it intellectually satisfying?

CharlieZ70-79, M
@Pikachu I do not think it is at all the case of the one who asked the original question.

But, for some people, "intellectually satisfying" should be traduced for "what, with little effort, confirms my common sense a priori believes.

The ones for whom is said:
"For each complex problem, there always is a cheap, easy to understand, simple [b]wrong[/b] answer"
@CharlieZ
[quote]"For each complex problem, there always is a cheap, easy to understand, simple wrong answer"[/quote]

Sure. But are we talking about atheism or theism there?
CharlieZ70-79, M
@Pikachu Personally, neither of both.

What I find "cheap, easy to understand, simple, wrong" is the pretension to find:

- An intellectual frame to validate or refute theism and / or atheism.

- An theological explanation for the causal, material Universe.
SapphicHeartF
Your reasoning is that of a 3rd grader. So yea... Got you some music to relax to...

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xsDdIByh8A]

Have a nice trolling.
SW-User
Intellect can be satisfied in so many ways that have nothing to do with faith 馃槉
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DDonde31-35, M
It's not intellectually satisfying. That's not the point.
The point is that I cannot justify any of the religions to myself on an intellectual level.
It's not replacing one explanation with another one, it's removing the explanation altogether. Just because someone comes up with an explanation for the question of "why we are here", doesn't mean that I am obliged to follow it or recognize it as legitimate.

Leave atheists alone.
I also encourage other people who identify as atheists to leave religious people alone as well.
MasterLee56-60, M
Funniest comment so far today.
redredredM
Because the god myth is basically a Just So story with a simple, silly answer no matter what religion you pick.
GodSpeed6361-69, M
Your guess is as good as mine. Atheism belongs in the ground with the dead, not above ground with the living.
daisymay51-55, T
Is the point of being an atheist to find intellectual stimulation? I don't think so.
Gouzi26-30, M
You all reminded me why ivory towers are necessary.
CharlieZ70-79, M
Thank you for the BA!

 
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