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What Is Faith To You? [Spirituality & Religion]

Skeptics don't believe in faith, yet, they use it every day of their life.

Hebrews 11 says, By Faith We Understand

1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2For by it the elders obtained a good testimony. 3By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. 4By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and through it he being dead still speaks. 5By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, “and was not found, because God had taken him”; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 6But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. 7By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.
8By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9By faith he dwelt in the land of promise as in a foreign country, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise; 10for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God. 11By faith Sarah herself also received strength to conceive seed, and she bore a child when she was past the age, because she judged Him faithful who had promised. 12Therefore from one man, and him as good as dead, were born as many as the stars of the sky in multitude—innumerable as the sand which is by the seashore. 13These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. 15And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them. 17By faith Abraham, when he was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18of whom it was said, “In Isaac your seed shall be called,” 19concluding that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead, from which he also received him in a figurative sense. 20By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.
21By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of the sons of Joseph, and worshiped, leaning on the top of his staff. 22By faith Joseph, when he was dying, made mention of the departure of the children of Israel, and gave instructions concerning his bones. 23By faith Moses, when he was born, was hidden three months by his parents, because they saw he was a beautiful child; and they were not afraid of the king’s command.
24By faith Moses, when he became of age, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter, 25choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, 26esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt; for he looked to the reward.
27By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king; for he endured as seeing Him who is invisible. 28By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood, lest he who destroyed the firstborn should touch them.
29By faith they passed through the Red Sea as by dry land, whereas the Egyptians, attempting to do so, were drowned. 30By faith the walls of Jericho fell down after they were encircled for seven days. 31By faith the harlot Rahab did not perish with those who did not believe, when she had received the spies with peace. 32And what more shall I say? For the time would fail me to tell of Gideon and Barak and Samson and Jephthah, also of David and Samuel and the prophets: 33who through faith subdued kingdoms, worked righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, 34quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, became valiant in battle, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. 35Women received their dead raised to life again. Others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. 36Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. 37They were stoned, they were sawn in two, were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented— 38of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth. 39And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, 40God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us.

This is what it means to me.
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Entwistle · 56-60, M
Why would god punish the children of the parents that hate him?
Carazaa · F
@Entwistle Ask him! The whole creation is cursed all the generations are cursed. Only those who have their sins forgiven are adopted out of the cursed generation to become Gods children. That is why Jesus came down from heaven and died for humanity. And he will take good care of his own children he says. It cost God a lot to humble himself to death for people who hate him. Would you die for someone who hates you? "How can you escape if you neglect such a great salvation" He says.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
Why would God create the people he already knows will hate him?
Carazaa · F
Search it out in scripture! Maybe he wanted them to have one more chance after the flood! He only saved 8 people and he killed the rest. Then after the flood they started their rebellion again and maybe God wants to see who is faithful, who loves him.

He also says in the Bible that every one will bow the knee to Jesus one day. And that in heaven the Godly will rule, whatever that means. I have no clue. But I take no chances. I will love God and all people because that is what he wants. But he has called us to warn the world and when all has heard , THEN Jesus will return and judge the living and the dead. The book will be opened where all the names of the saved are in, and if your name is not there you will be found guilty and pay for your own sins.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
That didnt answer my question at all.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Entwistle I’m curious, what makes you think God punishes children?
Carazaa · F
To show His Glory. It is totally illogical to love a hateful people, but He does! He even died for them to show his nature and to save them.
God says that "we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities in heavenly places" There is a world unseen of angels and this is also to show them who is for God and who is against God!
Carazaa · F
@SimplyTracie Read Deutoronomy 20 "Have no other gods but me, for I am a jealous God, Punishing the children of the parents who hate me to the 3rd, and 4th generation, and blessing the children of the parents who love me to the thousands generation"
Entwistle · 56-60, M
@SimplyTracie Doesn't the bible say he is a jealous God and will punish the children of those who hate him?
Carazaa · F
@Entwistle Read Exodus 20. Yes. I will love God and I will obey
1. Because I love him He has done so much for us
2. Because I want Him to answer all my prayers
3. I want him to bless my family, kids, and grandkids. And he has.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Entwistle Are you sure you’re reading it in it’s proper context? Can you quote the verse?
Carazaa · F
The Ten Commandments

20 And God spoke all these words:


2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

7 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

13 “You shall not murder.

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

15 “You shall not steal.

16 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”

18 When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance 19 and said to Moses, “Speak to us yourself and we will listen. But do not have God speak to us or we will die.”

20 Moses said to the people, “Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning.”

Exodus 20
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@SimplyTracie [quote]Can you quote the verse?[/quote]

I'm not sure if this is the one @Entwistle is referring to -

Exodus 20:5 (KJV)

[i]"5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"[/i]

That appears to go on to great great grandchildren.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
That's the one. Thank you Suzie.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@suzie1960 @Entwistle
Jesus answered, Neither has this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

2and His disciples asked Him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” 3Jesus answered, “Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but this happened so that the works of God would be displayed in him.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@SimplyTracie [quote]Jesus answered, “Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but this happened so that the works of God would be displayed in him."[/quote]
That's even worse, harming someone just because he can. It's like a child pulling the legs off spiders. How can anyone with a conscience worships such an evil spiteful creatures. Anyone who does must approve of such actions.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@suzie1960 Know what you're talking about before you post.
@Entwistle it is not punishment, but the direct effects of sin on the children, the sin of the parents harms the children is what that verse says.


But the rest of the story, there is healing in Christ.
@suzie1960 if God allows someone to be born blind just so God can heal them later, that is God's right and business. The larger meaning of that passage is that we are ALL born spiritually blind, and when we come to the Lord, our spiritual sight is healed.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@GodSpeed63 I do know what I'm talking about. You should try taking your own advice.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@SpiritualMan If that's the god you worship, you can keep it. If I wanted a god there are plenty of better candidates.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@suzie1960 [quote]I do know what I'm talking about. You should try taking your own advice.[/quote]

I do know what I'm talking about, it's clear that you don't know what your talking about. The Spirit of God doesn't dwell in you as He does with me. He can dwell in you if you'd let Him and bring you into all truth.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@suzie1960 [quote] If that's the god you worship, you can keep it. If I wanted a god there are plenty of better candidates.[/quote]

You forget, Suzie Q, there is only one living God, Yahweh, who lives forever. There are no other gods besides Him.
@suzie1960 well God gave us free will, the potential for sin and it's consequences are real, you can't have it both ways
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@SpiritualMan Amen, brother, amen.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@GodSpeed63 [quote]You forget, Suzie Q, there is only one living God, Yahweh, who lives forever. There are no other gods besides Him.[/quote]
Where's your evidence? I keep asking you to provide it but you never have. Why not just admit the truth for once - you don't have any.

Your unsupported claim for your made up "god jehovah/yahweh" thing could be applied to anything. [i][b]"You forget, Godslow36, there is only one living god, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, who lives forever. There are no other gods besides Quob."[/b][/i] I'll present proof of that after you present your evidence to support your claim.