Without gerrymandering, expensive all media blitz campaigns and massive voter suppression, what are the odds Republicans could rule anything?
Who votes to keep things as they are and to fight against progress? Can that be anyone?
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Rule?
I'm not sure where exactly you're going, but conservatism, i.e., resisting progress, has a long history over the last few centuries, and I could certainly make an argument, a la Buckley and others, that legitimate principled conservatism can be a constructive political force.
I'd have a harder time with reactionary movements, ideologies based on pseudo history like Naziism and the Lost Cause, and Trumpism's toying with bringing back the guilded age of criminally unrestrained crony capitalism.
I'm not sure where exactly you're going, but conservatism, i.e., resisting progress, has a long history over the last few centuries, and I could certainly make an argument, a la Buckley and others, that legitimate principled conservatism can be a constructive political force.
I'd have a harder time with reactionary movements, ideologies based on pseudo history like Naziism and the Lost Cause, and Trumpism's toying with bringing back the guilded age of criminally unrestrained crony capitalism.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
@MistyCee The Republicans have fallen a long way from William F Buckley to today's cable TV gasbags.
Watch reruns of "Firing Line" and anticipate how far Buckley could lean back in his chair with a pen in his hand.
Today's conservatives would hate him. He had this odd easy coast upper class accent spiced with words with more than five letters.
80% of this country's problems can be traced to Republican dogma.
Watch reruns of "Firing Line" and anticipate how far Buckley could lean back in his chair with a pen in his hand.
Today's conservatives would hate him. He had this odd easy coast upper class accent spiced with words with more than five letters.
80% of this country's problems can be traced to Republican dogma.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
They couldnt.. In a straight vote the Republicans never poll 50% nationally.. But people tend to forget that America was nenver meant as a Democracy. Its a Republic, where in the original form, White, Christian, Male Landowners had a vote. And most of them owned slaves and treated wives as property under law.
Thats just to give you a handle on how you ended up where you are. If you want a true democracy you have to put in to it, not expect things out of it.
If you want true Democracy, move on. It doesnt live in America..
Thats just to give you a handle on how you ended up where you are. If you want a true democracy you have to put in to it, not expect things out of it.
If you want true Democracy, move on. It doesnt live in America..
Elevatorpitches · F
@whowasthatmaskedman Deist
different from "Christian"
example Ben Franklin, of course he was not a green hippie either.
just saying... he DID understand about getting up early and owning your own little gigs. We could use more people like him now teaching in community colleges
different from "Christian"
example Ben Franklin, of course he was not a green hippie either.
just saying... he DID understand about getting up early and owning your own little gigs. We could use more people like him now teaching in community colleges
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Elevatorpitches We agree on this. I had a lot of time for Ben Franklin.. But I would differentiate between "Christian" as a set of principles of living that I would apply to Franklin. and "Christian" as a label applied to the majority of Americans who profess a Faith.
Elevatorpitches · F
@whowasthatmaskedman Deist meant they would never get the fanatics to WOW them!
heh
heh
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Serious question for you. What do you define as progress?
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@hippyjoe1955 LoL. Not a real serious question. It's up there with- Define green transportation. Define human rights! Prove human rights exist, and other denialism.
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JP1119 · 36-40, M
@Stopmakingsense I probably [i]am[/i] smarter than your entire generation, I’m where I am because your generation fucked everything up. You told me “just get a college degree and we guarantee you’ll get a good job that can support a family.” I went to college, I got my degree, and now I’m 33, still living with my parents, and working a job I could have been hired for even if I had [i]dropped out of high school[/i] and making less than $15/hour. I have learned from you, but I have come to a different conclusion than you have. Raising the minimum wage would be a policy much more beneficial to me in particular and society in general than more deregulation.
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@JP1119 yes-. Definitely! You're smarter than everyone in my generation. Please go with that.
You don't have to know what we say or think to be an American! You're winning the internet, too!
You don't have to know what we say or think to be an American! You're winning the internet, too!
independentone · M
@JP1119 33 and living with mommy? You really need to face the fact that you've made some really bad decisions in life.