What threshold of evidence should be needed to claim that an election was fraudulent?
And what consequences should there be for someone wrongly claiming that an election was fraudulent?
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BlueVeins · 22-25
Really, what we should have is an outside body like the OAS watching over our elections, but barring that, it should be like any other criminal matter where there can be an investigation with probable cause, but only a conviction (redo) with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@Burnley123 Yyyeah, I don't really know if we can have consequences for claiming that there's fraud unless it's provable that the one making the claim knew or should've known it's false. Like, that sounds like a really convenient tool for rising autocrats and stuff.
Northwest · M
[quote]What threshold of evidence should be needed to claim that an election was fraudulent?[/quote]
This is very straightforward, and Trump is very familiar with it. In 2017, he said the elections were rigged and that's why Hillary won the popular vote by nearly 3.5M votes.
What happens, is that the states certify their elections, and the Congressional committee Trump appointed, headed by his own people, produced nothing to support his theory. All State Secretaries of State certified that there was no systemic fraud.
How do you go about it? It's really a grey area, but Trump decided he can.
If he tries to do it this time around, it will be the same thing, except it will need to be done after the Secretaries of State certify it. In my state, I've consistently voted for Kim Wyman for Sec. of State, She's a Republican but she's been doing a great job as Sec of State. In 2017, she essentially told Trump to shove it.
[quote]And what consequences should there be for someone wrongly claiming that an election was fraudulent?[/quote]
This is a good question. If I start tweeting that the election is fraudulent, then I have no power to instigate an inquiry. The President does have that power, and he would be protected by the powers entrusted to him by we the people.
Of course, a future administration, or Congress, can decide to investigate him, just as he has been investigating the FBI's Russia investigation, for the past 4 years.
It's complicated.
This is very straightforward, and Trump is very familiar with it. In 2017, he said the elections were rigged and that's why Hillary won the popular vote by nearly 3.5M votes.
What happens, is that the states certify their elections, and the Congressional committee Trump appointed, headed by his own people, produced nothing to support his theory. All State Secretaries of State certified that there was no systemic fraud.
How do you go about it? It's really a grey area, but Trump decided he can.
If he tries to do it this time around, it will be the same thing, except it will need to be done after the Secretaries of State certify it. In my state, I've consistently voted for Kim Wyman for Sec. of State, She's a Republican but she's been doing a great job as Sec of State. In 2017, she essentially told Trump to shove it.
[quote]And what consequences should there be for someone wrongly claiming that an election was fraudulent?[/quote]
This is a good question. If I start tweeting that the election is fraudulent, then I have no power to instigate an inquiry. The President does have that power, and he would be protected by the powers entrusted to him by we the people.
Of course, a future administration, or Congress, can decide to investigate him, just as he has been investigating the FBI's Russia investigation, for the past 4 years.
It's complicated.
Butterflykisses24 · 51-55, F
We should have an independent company with equal parts employed on both sides recounting the votes and anybody that claims fraud should be fined.