Why would the people of the UK benefit from a Labour Government?

@Burnley123 I'm not falling out with you and respect your views. I've just got no time for your boss

@SW-User [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jixrX93-yUQ]

@SW-User I can't agree that this is what the People's Vote want.
A general election is not a referendum on one key issue. It is where people consider the things they believe are important to the country and the direction they want the country to take over the entire range of policy issues. Then they vote for the candidate or party they believe is their best compromise.
However, in the UK today's horribly muddied by our first past the post system as then some weigh up as above and realise they really don't want party A in power therefore they decide to vote tactically to stop that candidate potentially winning in their constituency.
In the last election I voted Labour in a Kent Tory stronghold. If I'm anti tory rather than pro Labour, say I prefer the greens, for me to prevent a tory return Labour is my best bet. Oh for proportional representation like we had in the EU parliament elections when my vote counts more meaningfully.
For those reasons I have a real issue on the brexit question calling this a proxy referendum.

@chubby1167 someone else who has fallen hook,line and sinker for the Tory Press.Nothing I say will change your opinion but you are so very wrong.Try listening to what Mr Corbyn actually says.Thats what’s important.

@chubby1167 [quote]We have veterans on the streets and committing suicide in droves and this man can’t even bring himself to wear a fucking poppy[/quote]

We have veterans dying on the streets because we send them to pointless wars and they come back with psychological scars that the government won't pay to treat. Corbyn has been against those wars and supports more money for social services. I think that matters a bit more than wearing a poppy.

@helenS I am a party member and I've known plenty of Jewish people. There is not a 'toxic culture of anti-Semitism' or anything of the sort. If you equate political criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism then we won't agree. The British left has a proud tradition of Jewish socialism and anti-racism. It was socialists and Jews together who defeated Oswald Moseley in the battle of Cable Street.

In modern times, Jewish Voice for Labour is an influential group of Jewish intellectuals on the Labour left who support Corbyn... and Palestine.

@Burnley123 "The British left has a proud tradition of Jewish socialism and anti-racism.
— I know that, of course, and you can be very proud of that tradition.

@helenS @Burnley123 I am no longer a Labour Party member so can't comment with inside knowledge thank you @Burnley123 for your insight.
It is one thing that has concerned me with the press coverage but interesting it gets such high coverage when the review into Islamaphobia in the Conservative Party doesn't.
I do agree with @Burnley123 however that now if you criticise Israel for the gaza, settlement of west Bank and other occupied land, and support the foundation of a Palestinian homeland your are likely to be branded anti-semitic. That freedom of debate and protest should not be restricted.

@curiosi Doesn't having periodic elections fly in the face of democracy?
We should vote only once in our life.

@curiosi yes-and the Labour Party are so very wrong with their stance on this but a majority a Tory government would be a disaster.

@TheSirfurryanimalWales I don't think Labour has much choice.

@Burnley123 wrong

I am going to leave this chat, you are full of shit @burnley123.

@Julianking OK. But thank you for your polite and insightful comments.

@Nyloncapes Evidence?please back such statements up.

@TheSirfurryanimalWales he said it his self

@TheSirfurryanimalWales open boarders?

@ArtieKat now with the £9k plus tuition fees the England is more expensive for a university qualification than the USA (on average).
The daftest thing is I look at my children's debt. Both are in public service ie both work for university actually. So with the relatively low pay they will never pay it off.
75% of student debt will fall back on the exchequer we've actually set up a huge national debt problem for the future again. It's about £2.5billion a year. Why have such a complicated system that in effect fails to pay for itself? A small additional graduate tax would be cheaper to administer, not add to national debt and recoup same amount?

@SW-User I personally think that the whole concept of a degree education was devalued by the aim of getting 50% of the population into higher education. There was nothing wrong with vocational qualifications like HND/HNC - plenty of my contemporaries who were intelligent but not academic went down that route; and, in many cases, were earning while they were studying. The policy was a very artificial way of lowering youth unemployment figures.

@ArtieKat in my family no-one ever went to university we were working class and really never crossed out minds we simply never did it. I left school with an a level. I applied for a computer operator job at a large local employer. On the first two days there we did some tests. I was taken aside with another guy and offered a trainee software engineer position. But I needed to go to college to get an hnd. That required me to get a grant etc, less than a week before the course started. I initially said no, my entire family were facing redundancy as the government closed the dockyard.
They persuaded me my mum had to get a bus 15 miles to sign the forms for me to get the grant.
Now I had an amazing career luckily. However in my 40s I was being made redundant as a company withdrew from the UK. I applied for a job I knew I could to, I was by then a Chartered IT Professional with over 20 years experience. I spoke to the hr department. They wouldn't entertain interviewing me as I wasn't a graduate.

So long way to get to my kids I hugely encouraged them to get degrees so they didn't face that type of discrimination in the future. Nowadays someone with an hnd like I did in 1984 would be highly unlikely to get the opportunity I did.

@SmartKat come here and vote Labour. That's the Labour manifesto.
Careful you'll be called a socialist next 🤫

@Rhodesianman This is so nuts on so many levels its hard to know where to begin.

We need to close our borders and send you back to Zimbabwe. 😂