What have you learned about America from the trump presidency?

@Kingfish28 A lot of us here must be stupid, huh? For every Donnie buttboy here there are 20 who realize we have a con man and crook and most likely Russian asset as a president. Read the comments...count them. How many agree with you and Abe? Not many and as time passes--less and less. Sooner or later even the terminally stupid can learn if they see the same thing in front of them everyday. And then there are the ones that never will.

@Kingfish28 So can I. ;-)

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Some still shine up to him.

@abe182 Fantasy is on FOX. I have way more pride in my own intelligence than to watch that propaganda.......much unlike you.

@abe182 Sorry---it wasn't $17 billion Pelosi brough to Trump---it was $2 TRILLION--to give him exactly what he asked for--but he wimped and ran.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/05/donald-trump-nancy-pelosi-infrastructure-deal

@abe182 In other words because Pelosi said Bone Spurs was obstructing....he decided to obstruct on the infrastructure deal to prove her wrong. You can't even make that kind of stupidity up. lol lol lol lol lol lol

@CountScrofula There are two ways to unite a country.

You can foster fear and hatred by telling the people that out-groups are causing all their problems, and that you can save them from those groups... all they have to do is to stop questioning your actions.

Leadership by chant.

The other way is to foster inclusion, acceptance, and tolerance, and that the country's problems are caused by, and able to be solved by, everyone accepting responsibility.

Leadership by conversation.

The first way is easy.

The second way is hard.

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Maybe it's because the last part ussually doesn't work? 🤷‍♂️
Do you have good examples of a nation (not even a country, but a nation) gathering behind the banner of "acceptance and tolerance"?

... If that ever occured, ussually deeper problematic reason is behind it. Like national trauma. When people wake up from a genocide, mass murder, some outcome of hate, some irregularity in thought that creates a nation wide traumatic experience. Then suddenly the entire country "feels" that something needs to be done. And then you have a goal.

Your first reason, also goes deeper in the political sense. Ussually these actors foster a fear that the group they represent are in an immediate danger of survival. Their verry way of life is threatened. It's an "excistential" fear. And it recruits like crazy.

For more information on how this works... read: "The Concept of the Political" by Carl Schmitt. (it's a super small book, just read it carefully, it's really dense) You can also watch "philosophy tubes'" adaptation, which kinda does a good job explaining certain aspects of Schmitt.

I don't get where philosophy tube gets the:

* "Strike first" theory from, since I don't find it in the book. (I've read it like 3 times... you can argue that this logically follows, but I don't see schmitt advocating for it. It's just something that happens).

* Or how he can white wash leftists that fall in the same psychological problem. He understands Schmitts reasoning that a group has to "believe" something, and that this "believe" doesnt have to be based on facts. If you believe one group is threatening your life, this believe will eventually start leading it's own life. Doesn't really make anny diffrence for the in-group if the out-group doesnt understand your fears. But Philosophy Tube says at some point: "when you are a capitalist, you can stop oppressing people, and the leftists will leave you alone. It's as easy as that.". While before saying that bit, agreeing that when people "believe" in something that this "believe" is not rational. So I don't get why Leftists would suddenly go: "oh wait, you close down your factory, that's nice of you, come join the revolution.". I think tha shows his own bias right there. (and that's why I unsubscribed, cause he also explains some other books that I read, and I really wonder if he read them carefully).


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Even tough he's biased as fuck (just stop listening when he talks about leftists) his idea on the book comes really close to the real deal. And yes, Schmitt was a NAZI, and he philosophy tube likes to emphasise that. He makes some extremely bad biased remarks about it when he discussess Schmitts book called "Political Theology", also really small and dense work.

If you want to read it, don't forget to read the introduction by George Schwab. He gives a fairly good critical annalysis. But this little piece of German political work, is still extremely discussed in political sciences today. And since tensions are rising within nations... it's kind of a hot toppic.

@Kingfish28 on the contrary , orange man has saved us from socialism

@anythingoes477 The democrats have already savaged the constitution and I expect nothing else from any of them.

@redredred Gosh you sound like a butthurt, whining snowflake. Thoughts and prayers. lol lol lol lol

No, my candidate won and will kick the shit out of any democrat foolish enough to run against him in 2020 so I'm not thè least bit butthurt. Sorry about your gaggle of losers.@anythingoes477

@xRedx Keep thinking "innocent". Mueller never found him innocent of anything---and said so in the report. But even at that........pretend Mueller never existed------there are still 16 other investigations going on----at once----into this crime family. State investigations and indictments--Federal ones--and an unspecified number of sealed indictments for sexual assault and rape of a minor waiting for him in the 8th Eastern District Court--and the 9th District. New York State--the IRS. Trump found a stoolie to lie about one investigation's findings but he is still scared shitless to let go of the full report to congress so the truth is really known. Anyone "innocent" would not refuse to let the full truth out. Why would an innocent man fight so hard---for so long----need so many legal teams---just to keep the truth from coming out---if he's absolutely innocent? Don't any of you all EVER think-----ever wonder about anything???? In what world does an innocent man fight to hide the evidence that proves he's innocent???

@anythingoes477 Give me concrete evidence or don't give me anything at all. If Trump is found guilty of anything illegal, I'll be supporting impeachment. For any president really, not just Trump. But all I've been hearing are snowflakes like you arguing and complaining.

@xRedx No one is complaining.......other than the ones that keep complaining that investigations should stop------and complaining the legal system keeps asking for evidence to be seen that they do not want to produce. What innocent man fights this hard to make sure no one can see the proof he's completely, truly innocent?????????

@MarineBob To inherit a bunch of money, do absolutely nothing useful, and have your name plastered over everything? Pretty much, yeah.

@katielass And yet you are the one constantly whining.