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Why would a smart Democrat want to be President?

And before all the Trump Supporter Trolls come out with "There is no such thing as a smart Democrat" hear me out. I contend that America as a world power is over, but the corpse has not started to stink yet, so Americans dont know it.
Twenty five Trillion in debt and climbing at an alarming rate , while industry after industry shifts more and more overseas. I have made all the arguments about how there is no coming back from this one. So. Since the political gulf in the US is to wide and deep, there can be no consensus. And since whoever is at the wheel will be blamed for the whole debacle when it finally hits home as a massive recession, why would any savvy political operator from EITHER side want to be President?
swirlie · 31-35, F Best Comment
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But then again, why would even a Republican want to be the President? The Office of President has always been a shit-job, so what's the motivation? It ain't money, that's for sure!

An infamous quote from G. Putin, Zen Master of Russia and Political Mentor of D.J. Trump, stated:
"Democracy is a farce!".

What he was specifically referring to at the time, was the home-grown, American model of Democracy. There are several highly successful versions of Democratic societies across the globe, but the truth is, a Democracy requires full participation and dedicated interest from all parties and persons involved. To be called a US Citizen, it is one's duty to help make the country fly if they want a seat at the table. More than half of all American Citizens for the most part, are considered as being 'freeloaders' of their own Democratic system.

The reason the American model of Democracy has all but failed and thus given rise to such quotes from Putin and the like, is because Americans themselves don't really understand what a Democracy is from a functional perspective. Americans are therefore unable to support the illusory model of their Democracy of which they were deluded into believing made the USA the "best place in the world to live". This is because Americans-at-large do not fundamentally understand the basic concept of what qualifies a country to be the best place to live, or what qualifies it to be a Third World ranking of shit hole to live. To drive coast to coast within the United States right now, would lead one to believe they are quickly approaching the ranking of Third World, due to the un-maintained, un-funded infrastructure like roads and bridges that are systematically disintegrating at an alarming rate. As well, America still burns coal as a primary heating source ...not natural gas and not even propane as their primary fuel sources.

Are you aware 'whowasthatmaskedman', that when it quickly became evident that Trump was incompetent as both a Leader and financial guru, that Justin Trudeau called an emergency meeting with former President Obama as well as the Leaders from Germany and China, which was held over several days in Ottawa Canada? And these meetings occurred only 6 months into the Trump Administration. Not only has Canada been very much aware of how unstable the US economy is compared to the economies of the remaining G20 Nations, but Canada is also America's primary trading partner which is of huge concern to Canada.

The 3 Leaders got together in Ottawa to formulate a financial plan knowing with absolutely certainty, that the 'decline' of the American model of Democracy is imminent. It will stop functioning, more so from a time-line AFTER Trump completes his first term in Office when the tsunami of his mindless efforts eventually catches up to America's bottom-line, financial reality.

Knowing this eventuality well in advance of the shit hitting the fan, Canada has already reduced its Export Trade with America from 80% to just 45%. China and other Pacific Rim countries are now picking up the surplus wealth that Canada is producing, in terms of raw materials and liquified Bitumen. The United States is cash-strapped as evidenced by their spiraling debt load and subsequent debt ceiling being raised continuously, which leaves Canada as well as China in the awkward position of requiring payment in advance for raw materials and consumer goods FROM the USA, before Canada does too much more business with America.

Canada, Germany and China are now strategically poised to take the economic lead globally, when the USA eventually slides into Receivership. Not IF, but WHEN it does.[/c]
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@swirlie What did they do when they found out Obama was incompetent as both a Leader and financial guru?
swirlie · 31-35, F
@eli1601

"What did they do when they found out Obama was incompetent as both a Leader and financial guru?"
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They didn't do anything! They didn't have to! Nobody had to re-trace Obama's steps and prove to the world that he had lied through his teeth in 'conning' everyone including himself, into believing he WAS, he IS and forever WILL remain, "The Best Deal-maker EVER, in the entire History of the United States".

Obama simply never made that delusional claim in the first place, which is why he lasted for 8 years![/c]
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@swirlie 😂

Burnley123 · 41-45, M
You always have to fight in politics though, even when it's tough. Especially when it's tough.

I think it Bernie or liz Warren because they are only people serious about radical change.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SimplyTracie That will only work if you can get the oarsman all pulling in the one direction....ANY direction. Look to Congress and the senate
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@whowasthatmaskedman It can happen if they respect the coxswain. The team doesn’t have to like the cox but respect is necessary.

I don’t think it’s any different then a small business. If the manager is respected, shit gets done. It’s 100% true where I work.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SimplyTracie In business I agree. But American politics is so screwed up. Look at the vitriol we get here from both sides. No one is listening. And no one is interested in the facts.
Ynotisay · M
That's not too hard to answer.
People at that level of politics (not including Trump) understand they'll be hated and blamed by some. It goes with the territory of public office. Smart Democrats move past that, understand they'll be judged by history, and seek to make the country, and world, better.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
To echo @Burnley123 sentiments:

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
[c=#003BB2]- Martin Luther King, Jr. -[/c]

So... jump into the fight 👊🏼
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Well unless their thinking is ideological, i mean seriously breaks from the expected norms that normally dominates Democrat and Republican political thinking, America is screwed !
For the short term at least !

The time for change was about ten years ago.
The world has moved on since then and there are new battles to be fought with new enemies !

Why would anyone want the top job ?
Kudos of course ! That and a hefty salary for five years !
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@Picklebobble2 I doubt any of the contenders need the money. They could all make more than 400k elsewhere. It's the power.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@eli1601 Not what it was though is it. The age of the Statesman is long gone.
The age of American being #1 for productivity is gone.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
What is this smart democrat you speak of?
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You are quite right and I fear it will happen faster than any American is prepared to deal with. Especially since Trump seems hell bent on pissing off the nation that could turn the US into Zimbabwe in an afternoon.
SW-User
Oh, there’s more than plenty around here that think they can be president
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SW-User I agree.. But WHY?? Its going to ruin Trump.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
Activism. The Democrats are waist deep with misanthropic candidates who make no bones about wanting to destroy any and all societal standards.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SteelHands The problem I have with what you are saying is that its all true. But not the whole picture. America has put itself at the mercy of the global economy with all this debt. Which was fine when America RAN the global economy and set the rules. But China is stronger, America is weaker and the global economy is on a tightrope right now. Along comes Trump and changes trade deals and imposes tariffs which have weakened Americas trade and financial positions globally in a way that cant me undone. The loss of revenue is small. The loss of influence is permanent. That part is on Trump. All this combines to mean that America is no longer the leader of the band and doesnt call the tune.
Bottom line. America wont decide the next move. Someone you owe a lot of money to, who maybe doesnt like you, will. And you will end up with trade sanctions, Tariffs and the IMF putting up a foreclosure sign on the door.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Growth potential is at least as important as short term profits. The US and a few other countries saw this 50 years ago and took Pepsi to the East. And since then the policies had been to practice some attrition to infuse some industrial growth in other places outside the US. Look at things from a longer view and you'll see that the moves don't hinder competition but encourage it.

Competition is good when it's balanced with challenges. Greed has its use too but needs to be offset by adaptability.

International agreement adjustments have been long due. Both to keep the super system intact and reinfuse progress in the base of capitalism, the American vision.

Lots of investors can't keep up with the changes. That's not news.
The ones that do are already seeing improvements. You'll just have to get used to the idea that the rich don't always stay on top and the ones lower down the ladder are not very useful if they are defeatist.

I'm not worried. Life's always been hard for me.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SteelHands As it has for many Americans. The part that worries me is that those further up the food chain have a habit of getting those who didnt cause the problema and can least afford it, to pay. As in the bank bailouts.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
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eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SimplyTracie 👍️
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
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SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
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TJNewton · M
Well there is patriotism some one is going to have to clean the shit up the current one has made long after he's gone
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@TJNewton The problem is much deeper and longer lived than Trump. And America no longer has the capacity to make or sell itself out of debt. The good citizens cant save the nation now.
TJNewton · M
@whowasthatmaskedman Yeah he is running it into the ground just like he did all his businesses accept this time there wont be any russian money to pull him out of the shit

 
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