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Liberals should be happy to know that New Zealand cops did not shoot and kill Brenton Harrison Tarrant.

The way fascists, right-wing American cops would have.

Brenton Harrison Tarrant was just out for a walk with his gun and to pick up some Skittles and some watermelon drink.
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BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
Well, I am happy they didn't shoot and kill him. They got him alive so now maybe they can question him and find out where he acquired his weapon from, what his motives were, and if anyone else helped him plan it. Wouldn't you say that catching the perpetrator of a crime is preferable to being forced to kill him?
@BlueMetalChick plus he will die completely irrelevant in a cage instead of as a martyr to these idiots.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Ugh, no kidding.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick He bought the weapons legally. He is a raving leftist in love with communist China.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 The guy is a communist? Where did you hear this from? Did he confess in prison that he's a commie?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick Its in his manifesto.
Theseus · 46-50, M
@hippyjoe1955 A fact which the perpetually outraged seem to have conveniently missed.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 In his manifesto? What manifesto? Can you be more specific?

Cos I just saw a headline which called him a right winger.
Theseus · 46-50, M
@BlueMetalChick Media lies.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Theseus Well I took a look for this manifesto and found what Hippy was referring to. Apparently it was full of racial nationalist themes. No mentions of communism or China were made.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@Theseus Make that three, actually. I just found a third source referring to this manifesto as being full of "lengthy, meandering, far-right conspiracy theories."
BlueVeins · 22-25
@hippyjoe1955 No intelligent political/economic analyst would consider the contemporary PRC to be an actual Communist state. Contemporary China is only communist in name, and maybe more like Fascist in every other way.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick Keep reading the original not the commentary. He likes Communist China for its ethnic cleanliness.
@BlueMetalChick Sounds like Theseus reads a bit too much John Birch Society material.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueVeins Go live there and find out then give us all a report.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 So he likes China for being ethnically homogeneous. Which would make him a...racial nationalist, and not a communist. Did any part of this manifesto praise communism itself? Did he praise the government, state, or economy of China?

I admire that the Third Reich had a great sense of fashion. That doesn't make me a Nazi.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@BlueVeins He didn't praise the People's Republic for being communist; he praised it for having very little racial diversity. Which is fine, people can praise that. But that doesn't make him a communist. At no point did he praise, defend, or even mention communist, or the government or economy of China at all.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick So what does communist China and Nazi Germany and this murdering clown all have in common. They are leftists.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 Except that none of those things are leftist. Nazi Germany was the opposite of leftist. Tarrant was a believer in far right theories, the global Jewish conspiracy, and new world order. He also praises Donald Trump in multiple parts of his manifesto, making him, uh, not a leftist. China is the closest you could hedge because they use public money to build their infrastructure. Other than that though, you couldn't name for me a single leftist piece of legislation or policy in China.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick Shows how ignorant you are of politics and political philosophy. The left is always trying to impose a tyranny. They succeed in mayn places until they were over thrown when the abject poverty the people were suffering under caused the people to rise up and defeat the tyrants.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@hippyjoe1955 The Left in what country, specifically? There are tons of examples of evil right-wing countries and of evil left-wing countries worldwide, and throughout history.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 No, it doesn't show "how ignorant I am of politics." It shows the opposite. You just make shit up at random. "The left" and "the right" aren't real things to you with measurable differences. They're just words you use to describe things you like and things you don't.

You claim that "leftism" imposes tyranny until people "rise up" to remove the leftists from power. And yet leftism came to exist because of the Enlightenment, during the French Revolution, when people fought back against the monarchs that oppressed them.

So you've flipped history on its head. Leftism came to exist because the French replaced a tyrannical system with something that allowed them more freedom. But of course, you just lied about that right now and pretended it was the other way around.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueVeins Russia, China, Vietnam, Laos, Venezuela, etc etc etc etc etc.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick Yes it does. Your denying it doesn't change its history.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@BlueVeins Ole boy here thinks that the Third Reich was leftist.

I guess all those people marching with swastika flags at the Unite the Right rally were actually leftists, lol
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 I just explained the history to you. Why don't you respond to that and tell me why I'm wrong, instead of just taking a cheap vague off ramp of "you're denying history". When I just gave you a history lesson.