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Who actually beleives in globalism?

I would find it interesting to hear peoples opinions on this matter. It would mean willingly destroying whichever nation state you belong too for an global replacement. How many users would want to work towards that future?
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
The entire idea of the nation-state is a fluid one. How are these borders drawn, how are they changed? What legitimizes a nation-state?

Here's an interesting point. Most people know as much about the people on the next street over from them, as they know about any other person on the planet, which is to say, barely anything.

When it comes to humans and their governance, what exactly is the natural arrangement? Is there one? Is there just one?

Another thought. If humans inhabited every planet in the solar system, would the idea of one nation on Earth still be as controversial as it is today?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Xuan12 The Expanse is a great Sci Fi show and has Matsnationalism, Earth Nationalism and Belter Nationalism.

Ironically, the same politicians who stoke up the divisions ans benefit from them also said cretly conspire across the solar boundaries for their own benefit. It's as though it's an analogy or something.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
I do [b]not[/b] favor any kind of world government - [b][c=#BF0000]with one exception[/c][/b].

If and when aliens of the extraterrestial kind show up, I may reconsider my view at that point.

However, I do favor national governments working toward keeping the planet safe. So I don't have a problem with a few space guns up there pointed outward to blast away an asteroid (or alien invaders).

But we don't need to surrender our national sovereignty to do that.

The one exception?

If I were made World Empress.

Trust me. If that were the case we'd be all one big happy planet.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@beckyromero These things will happen by evolution. Gradually a sort of Global EU will evolve. I know Brexit is a "thing" right now. But that is simply because the current model is flawed badly and there is an alternative. The evolution will be more economically based.
HerKing · 61-69, M
On an intellectual level, 'countries' are an artificial construct. There were no countries 60000 years ago.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@JimboUk Yes, I qualified what I said. It's only humans who have countries.
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@HerKing We'd be the only fully self conscious animals too which would answer your statement.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@JimboUk True, but is it entirely a good thing?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I kind of do in a utopian sense. On a practical level, I think governments need to work together more.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Burnley123 I agree but the problem is some governments kill people for the smallest thing so they wouldn't work together because half of them are delusional and I'm pretty sure have some issues they need to work out. To achieve peace would mean strong arming these governments because they're not going to give it up.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Burnley123 Then there's the problem of corruption. We have more governments that are totalitarian than not. Even in a democracy is kind of a shady area because some of "democratic" countries have not made very good decisions.
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GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
People are too different for absolute globalism.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
I love globalism, I mostly hear conservatives whining about globalism culturally wise. I see no benefit in not getting things from other countries. I can get good quality food for a good price and support local farmers both here in America and everywhere.

They may be in Canada, New Zealand, Australia, France, China, Britain or anywhere else but it still counts.

While I try to support local businesses, I can't always because in America it's outrageously pricey. Trying to charge me nine dollars for a very small bag of rice when I can get better quality and bigger for that price somewhere else whose climate makes it better for grains and veggies. AND go straight to the source as well, whose prices are way cheaper than a grocery store.

Yup good old globalism.

I love getting things around the world, the medieval period is so overrated.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
As a way of spreading development and raising the standard of living it is more effective than any other method short of war. And you have to lose badly to get a Marshall plan
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
I favor a one world government for sure because every president we have, can either turn back the clock, or go forward. When bad presidents do damage, they can do massive damage.

We could have certain rights that wouldn't even be up for debate, it would be more cohesive rather than going to one country and you're stoned for being gay and the next you're allowed to marry.

We should just stick to natural rights with freedom to change OTHER laws if need be but with a one world, it would be much harder for other governments to do human rights abuses.
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@SatanBurger I don't quite understand your logic. An American president does damage and you think an even more powerful president wouldn't?
Unequal2Trash · 36-40, F
globalism will be necessary when the aliens attack
katielass · F
Only a complete idiot would want a one world government.
Bagalamaga · 56-60, M
It’s not like anyone has a choice. The only thing little people can do is adapt
JimboUk · 31-35, M
@Bagalamaga I agree with you, its forced on the people in each of these individual countries because the majority don't want it (I was double checking on here). My response to you is my people would still be governed by Kings with your mentality (my brother shares your pessimism). Britian leaving the EU, Trump pulling out of Obama's trade agreement with the EU/Canada was two massive steps off the road to globalism. That's why the push back by the establishment has been so big and vicious towards Trump and Brexit.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@JimboUk [quote]Britain leaving the EU, Trump pulling out of Obama's trade agreement with the EU/Canada was two massive steps off the road to globalism.[/quote]

Ahh but is it a good thing? Thing is, today there is as yet no provision for the UK to have the same trade agreements on April 1st as it does now . It is so critical that a group of CEOs in UK firms have written to the government to basically tell them that trying to comply with new regs is not their priority as they haven't a clue how they're going to carry on trading as they do now come April. And no-one seems to know.
Bagalamaga · 56-60, M
@JimboUk do you think that things are significantly better now than they were in the old days?
Moosepantspatty · 31-35, M
Theres the Phoenix guy, but he changed his/her name, and I haven't seen them post for a while
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
I would for I am the nation
Tres13 · 51-55, M
no good for FIFA soccer world cup
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
The new world order?

 
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