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What kind of immigration reform would you endorse in the US?

There's a ton of options on this kind of thing, from very freewheeling, to authoritarian dictator extreme, and even mixes of the two. Basically we're in a situation where our businesses crave immigrant labor, but our citizens insist on better conditions for themselves (somehow perhaps conflictingly, we don't seem to expect our businesses or government to provide those improved conditions, but whatever.)

Personally I'm a combination of the two. I think a relatively easy economic immigration policy, coupled with close tracking and harsh penalties for violations, particularly on businesses, might be the best overall way to go.

For instance, make it easy to come work in America, but expect such immigrants to submit to photo identification, fingerprinting, a blood sample, and background check. If you want to get really Big-Brother about this you could even use RFID chips, but that might be a bit overboard.

Make immigrants documented in this way check in on a weekly or semiweekly basis with a phone call to the Bureau of Immigration or whatever. You know, let them in but keep a close eye on them. Some people may not like such an idea, but for many immigrants such would be a small price to pay for the safety and stability of being in the US. And of course they're entitled to US minimum wage and pay taxes like everyone else.

Violations, such as if they are convicted of a major crime or fail to document themselves upon entering the country may be dealt with harshly depending on the circumstances. Deportation, seizure of assets, prison time, remunerative labor (within humane standards of course). And businesses that are found to have knowingly, or negligently hired an undocumented immigrant are fined not less than 1% of their annual revenue per offense, along with the forfeiture of any tax benefits in the year of conviction.

I like this approach because it's fairly free-market friendly, allowing flow of labor with relative ease, but also security minded, taking fingerprints, photos, and blood samples from all non-citizen entrants. It also strongly punishes any attempts to circumvent the law. I think that's the best way to keep illegal immigration down. Easy compliance, coupled with harsh punishments for non-compliance.

Maybe the states ought to be able to be able to set the number of documented migrant workers permitted in their areas as well. For example, maybe Texas and California want to allow of total of up to 6 million immigrant workers in their states, but Wisconsin prefers only 8,000 or so. That way, local economies can respond to and dictate the amount of immigrant labor they want. This would cause businesses and local governments to talk seriously about their economic and social needs.

Anyway, that's my idea off the top of my head, not thoroughly thought out. What about yours?
nedkelly · 61-69, M
Cut immigration to 25,000 per year, DEPORT all illegal immigrants, new migrants must live where the government tells you, not always in the major cities
Northwest · M
First order of business, is for us to accept the defacto situation: illegal immigrants are providing a service that's vital to our economy,

When we do that, we can regulate their existence in our society, through various means, none have to be Orwellian in nature. Bottom line: they need to work, and employers should be the first line of defense. The burden of proof is on the employer today, but there are additional measures that can be required from employers, including expanding the definition of "employer" to cover all the areas that employ illegals.

We can require homeowners, to hire a nanny, or a housekeeper, without reporting it to the IRS.

In the long run, this is better for us, and those who want to come to the US to work.
@Northwest good on ya mate! especially the first part

[quote]first order of business, is for us to accept the defacto situation:[/quote]
well to be honest the legitimate channels that exist, are quite strict. 22 federal agencies have to sign off.
those who follow the rules, I welcome. including, the right to walk up to the border, and ask to start the process.

if you are asking about keeping out illegal migrants. th boarder patrol, if well supported is equal to the task

to be honest? i know from my life that many immigrants, legal and Not so. have proved to be reliable workers, I cant GET "regular" Americans, to give the work output of many who come here from the Hispanic world or East and South Asia.
4meAndyou · F
I thought of the fingerprinting. I mentioned it last week, and I think it's a great idea. We have cell phones now that can scan, so why not require employers to scan fingerprints? The reason this is needed is that illegal immigrants change their names so many times.

We are already using ankle bracelets, but illegals who are released and told to return for their court date just cut them off.
easterniowegin · 51-55, M
Wow, im impressed. A well-thought-out plan that seems effective and still accommodating.
I would add some criteria about learning the english, to help with assimilation and also something about sanctuary cities and ICE, otherwise this is a plan that I could back.
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
@easterniowegin Thanks. Yeah, it's just a rough sketch.
daisymay · 51-55, T
All very good ideas. But, you didn't say "wall", so the mouthbreathers will now accuse of you wanting an influx of illegal immigrants and open borders. Sorry.
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
@daisymay Yeah, I was thinking the wall wouldn't be necessary, since legal immigration would be relatively easy and companies caught hiring illegals would lose so much money. Who would risk hiring an illegal if getting caught with even one would cost 1% of your revenue and all your tax benefits?
Carla · 61-69, F
I am not an expert. But i think your take is very reasonable.
Budwick · 70-79, M
You have some good thoughts there.
Although, I don't like putting employers in a situation in which they are are responsible for monitoring immigration. Just have government provide legal immigrants what they need to ID themselves as legal to work.
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
@Budwick Yeah, absolutely. And any employer who still ends up hiring an illegal gets the clamps.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Xuan12 There you go!
Perfect.

 
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