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The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) would allow officials to disqualify immigrants’ applications based on receipt of federal assistance such as food stamps, Section 8 housing vouchers or Medicare and Medicaid drug subsidies.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
of course, they are not entitled to federal assistance if any state wants to give them assistance cut off ALL funds to that state
MarineBob · 56-60, M
I believe in working for what you need and want
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@MarineBob I agree 100%
Graylight · 51-55, F
@MarineBob So does the single mother with three jobs. So does the father who can't find enough work in his field to support his family. So does the couple being suffocated by unforeseen medical bills.
Mysti · 51-55, F
Actually that is a condition of the original immigration policy. They must have a us sponser, employment, and not live off public assistance. I believe it is fair
Mysti · 51-55, F
I would say it's not a change. It's more like being enforced
SW-User
Thanks for clarifying!
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Mysti Or maybe attempting to interpret current laws. Our laws are a tangled mess.
NotYourDarling · 36-40, F
You don't have to like it but it makes perfect sense.... A lot of Americans are sick and or dieing, unable to stand on their own feet. Some cant work, others can't become gainfully employed, others need assistance due to circumstances. The government needs to help it's own legal citizens instead of turning them down. They should be helping the people struggling in our country first before handing it out to someone who decided to migrate here for the American Dream.

I get that it looks or sounds bad but someone is always going to have an issue....
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@NotYourDarling those wish issues and oppose it should pay a hirer tax
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It's sort of a non-question.

What types of immigrants are we talking about?

Technically people here under visa applications are non-immigrant workers. They have a sponsor. And having written such applications, part of the process is showing the liquidity to pay for and support such a worker. That includes health insurance, housing, and so on.

So a situation in which they would have no support would indicate some rupture in the original terms stated and would spell fraud or a breach of contract.

But those aren't immigrants. They are non-immigrant workers.

The only immigrant category of non-citizen status is the green card. The intention is permanent resident status. I know people whose spouses are in this category. Citizenship isn't granted upon marriage. Also people having received asylum have this status. It seems the same access to social services as citizens for green card recipients. They are paying taxes, medicare, medicaid. And so on.

I don't really get who such a law would impact. Must be people with illegal status seeking asylum, green card, or a legitimate non-immigrant worker visa status. It seems if we had legitimate immigration reform, this category of people wouldn't exist.
Graylight · 51-55, F
Immigrants, legal and illegal, pay millions of dollars in taxes without any benefit of the services for which they're paid.

Sure, let's remove the assistance they receive, which would include housing vouchers, Medicaid, welfare and food stamps. Now we have millions of people who can't adequately feed their children, still require medical attention, may find themselves homeless and will continue to make this their new land. How is it we won't end up not only paying for their needs one way or the other but creating new problems along the way, like increased crime, possible spread of disease, higher healthcare and homelessness?

We've become a nation that once utilized the qualities of mercy and foresight to strengthen the general community but now seeks only to penalize others at every opportunity.
@Graylight I think the whole thing is a non-question and betrays a lack of commitment to really solving the problem of immigration.

IF one REALLY solved the problem of immigration, then there would be people in immigrant status (citizens and green card) and people in non-immigrant status (various visa categories-- B, H, R).

Obviously people in the immigrant status should have access to these services. Fuck. I know people whose wives are in the green card status.

And people in the non-immigrant status have sponsors, contracts, and the applications for these categories require demonstrating how support, including health care, will be provided.

So who are these people that would be impacted by such a law? Clearly not in immigrant or non-immigrant statuses.

And if they are doing farm labor, meat packing, roofing and so on-- they should be in a legitimate non-immigrant visa status and some American corporation is committing labor fraud.
Disqualify them for what? No. Immigrants should not be treated any differently than the descendants of immigrants, as far as the "inalienable rights" are concerned, or we might as will knock that statue of Ishtar out of New York harbor.
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, on the other hand should be deported without hesitation.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
This seems to be a behind Congress' back attempt to deny [i]undocumented immigrants[/i] a chance for a green card in the future.

And, no I do [b]NOT[/b] support such efforts.
DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
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SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
Their applications for what? US Citizenship?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@SimplyTracie No they were grown men looking for work. I help homeless people find work and they thought I could help them too. I found them some temporary work but several had dates with the court system so they couldn't get full time work. One of them did some jail time for using a handgun. The handgun was illegal and he was shooting at another human being so....
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 That’s good that they’re willing to work.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@SimplyTracie Of course they are great guys. One of them went to jail for a year or so. One went on to be medic a third moved back to Somalia and the fourth moved to the US.
DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
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MarineBob · 56-60, M
@DonaldTrumpet but then congress would want them to have big expensive funerals
DonaldTrumpet · 70-79, M
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Cierzo · M
It is simply common sense, what every country should do.
BlueRain · F
Are they illegal?
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Novice · 18-21, M
Nope, not at all
Abbenthewarwolf · 18-21, M
No I don't do you?

 
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