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The idea of dividing CA into 3 states is genius. Who came up with it?

(CNN) An initiative that would divide California into three separate states qualified Tuesday to appear on the ballot in November's general election.

Californians will vote whether to separate into three states: California, Northern California and Southern California -- subject to approval by US Congress.
The proposal by venture capitalist, Tim Draper to break up California in a campaign called "Cal 3," received more than 402,468 valid signatures -- surpassing the amount required by state law.
California Secretary of State Alex Padilla will certify the initiative as qualified for the November 6th ballot on June 28.

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Oceanside CA – Secretary of State Debra Bowen announced, on Tuesday, the proponent of an initiative to split California into six separate states, may begin collecting petition signatures for the measure.
The plan, known as ‘Six Californias’, is being pushed by venture capitalist Tim Draper. “California is ungovernable, as it is.” Draper said in a Fox Business News interview. “One group trying to manage the agrarian people in the central valley, the military groups down in LA, then Hollywood and up North, the people in Jefferson are trying to pull out not just from the state but from the country.”
The plan would split California into six new states which would then compete for counties. Draper said his plan would “give all of us sort of a refresh in government.” Draper continued “The refresh is desperately needed in a state that has the highest costs for the worst service.”
Draper believes the state’s poorest regions are the areas that want to split from the state, the most. Water rights have always been a big issue for the central valley and, with the current drought, those issues are magnified. Draper said the people of the central valley wonder why the people up North decide where all the water goes.
Dissatisfaction of government, and people feeling they were not being represented, led to a similar action in Colorado. An initiative to split Colorado, led by rural counties in Northern Colorado, failed last November on a 56% to 43% vote in Weld County.
The initiative faces opposition from Congress because the split would affect the Electoral College and the balance in the Senate. The U.S. Constitution requires that Legislatures must first approve any state that is to be created within its jurisdiction. The proponents of the plan will need to collect over 807,615 registered voters, eight percent of the total votes cast for governor in the 2010 gubernatorial election, in order to qualify it for the ballot. The proponent has 150 days to circulate petitions for the measure, meaning the signatures must be submitted to county elections officials by July 18, 2014.

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Heartlander · 80-89, M
I suspect that many in California will see this as an opportunity for a form of gerrymandering where California ends up with 6 liberal Senators rather than 2 :)

But I also see it as a way for Illinois to dump Chicago and Michigan to dump Detroit. And I have to imagine that Louisiana would be happy to dump New Orleans. Quite a few states would probably be more than happy to fragment themselves.

I was in a way hoping to see Scotland break from the UK and Northern Ireland following with their own idea, just to see how divorce in a global way would work. It seems to have worked pretty well with the split up of the old USSR and the Warsaw Alliance.

How can we be really free without the right to self determination and the right to break up political entities. But like in a 2-person marriage, the thought of divorce should also provide incentive to come together to work things out. We in America haven't been very interested in coming together to work things out lately, so maybe divorce may be an option. Let's see how California works this out.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Shouldn’t the others states have a say in this? @Heartlander
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@jackjjackson Great question. From the standpoint that the split would disturb the make-up/balance of congress I would think other states should have a says so. But there's still the idea of self determination.
Spitbak · 56-60, M
"I'll start another wall!"
eli1601 · 70-79, M
I still prefer Calexit
Infoman · 36-40, M
@eli1601 Hahaha, I wouldn't be opposed!
Infoman · 36-40, M
It makes a lot of sense actually.
Northwest · M
@Lizabee Where the fuck do I talk about having no immigrants?
Lizabee · F
@Northwest

“I believe it's our obligation, to preserve the diversity we have, and not absorb minorities”

Perhaps I missed your point.
Northwest · M
@Lizabee This means that we have an obligation to preserve minorities' unique culture/identity, and not attempt to absorb it into the collective.

Minorities are not immigrants, but they can be.
Northwest · M
not going to happen. The idea of 2-state, or more, split, has been around for decades.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
I agree. Too much of a change. @Northwest
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Have Californians move to Mexico.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@MrBrownstone You mean return
Northwest · M
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Is this to seperate the latte sippers?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
It’s not my plan but I suppose you’re correct 😀 @TheOneyouwerewarnedabout
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
I would not be in favor of giving that crew four more US Senate seats.
Fungirlmmm · 51-55, F
Looks like California will be tiny.
Lizabee · F
Russians came up with it
hlpflwthat · M
Bay area, LA area & San Diego area are 30 million of the 39 million people in the state. What changes that makes you so happy?

What you need is a way to put those 3 cities in one state and give the rest the state 2 new states. Then you'd gain some clout.

But have at it :)
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Gerrymandering by a businessman on behalf of the ruling party ?
"You get the poor bits, we'll keep the wealthy ones !"
To even give voice to such an idea, let alone even make it politically possible is railroading the poor rather than dealing with an issue.
jim44444 · 70-79, M
A venture capitalist is promoting this. By definition his only goal is to make money. So what is his stake in this?
Northwest · M
@jim44444 He's ego driven, like Trump, and he thinks that by splitting the state, the smaller states, will wake up, and become conservatives.

He "inherited" the business/business contacts from his father, who inherited it from his grandfather, and lives in a bubble, with very little, to no awareness, of how most people live.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
So this guy thinks he’s some sort of political savant huh? @Northwest
Northwest · M
That’s what he thinks. He also thinks he’s an early education guru.

Even if it passes California, they still need Congressional approval.

@jackjjackson
beckyromero · 36-40, F
The State Supremes have struck it from the ballot (unanimously).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5970997/Three-Californias-Court-rejects-vote-carving-state.html
rottenrobi · 56-60, F
I'm all for the division of California onto 2-3 states. I wanted this 25 years ago when they were talking about it. Six states seems too much.
hlpflwthat · M
Any idea why they needed 800K signatures last time and only 400K this time?

 
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