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Skipping over the part where America goes down the crapper, who replaces them?

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Interested in non US views here. Which nation or nations will become the big players after the power of the US has weakened to the point where it pulls back to focus on itself entirely?
swirlie · 31-35, F Best Comment
Your's is an interesting question. I understand your intent, but your question could be answered in different ways thus yielding a different answer depending on the perspective from which one views your question.

The USA has always been a weak player from a global perspective in terms of fiscal domestic responsibility is concerned, meaning that the US model or protocol for running an economy is grotesquely flawed. One need only look at America's ever-mounting 20 Trillion dollar National Debt obligation to realize this fact, or to look at how the global economic meltdown of 2008 was born of American-grown banking practices which of course negatively affected every G20-member country in the world except Canada.

From a supplier of goods and services to the global economy, America has always been very strong through shear leverage attained by numbers multiplied from America's multiple-million population base. But from a mis-management of those goods and services and the gross mis-management of America's domestic fiscal policy, the agencies responsible in the United States have proven themselves to be incompetent on a global stage, thus unqualified to really carry any delusional thoughts to the contrary any further into the future.

As well, the USA is no longer the Leader of the so-called, "New World Order". Russia recently took over that responsibility when the American Military announced two weeks ago, that Russia now out-guns America from a hyper-speed, long-range nuclear strike capability. For the American Military to formally announce publicly that it no longer is the world's greatest military superpower, is a dramatic sign of internal weakness which is acknowledged as such from every other G20 nation in the world, Russia being the first of all Nations to acknowledge that understanding.

So therefore, from what perspective are you making reference to some other country(s) becoming the big player(s)? Are you referring to that country's ability to supply goods and services to the world, or are you referring to that country's ability to manage what has been supplied to the world?
swirlie · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

Being opposed as you said, to any other nation or group getting themselves involved in another nation's voting affairs is a very righteous way of pondering the perfect life in a perfect world in my view, but in truth, the absence of what I have suggested to the contrary as it pertains specifically to the USA, is what brought the clown-like, hideous characters like Donald Trump and associates onto the scene. Trump not only negatively affects the USA, he also negatively affects Trade motivation between nations whom have traditionally conducted economic Trade with the USA.

What I am saying to you, is that Americans as a culture, are grossly uneducated politically and are thus totally incompetent as a society to even have the remote wherewithal to actually take the outcome of their vote into account on a global scale prior to casting that vote, let alone take their vote's domestic impact into account with 'how' that vote will affect their own country at the end of the day.

If their vote was ONLY impacting the USA internally, I could see your point. But because their vote impacts how the USA then interacts economically with the rest of the world, the rest of the world should absolutely have the option of tempering a hard-Right mentality of which Trump is self-confirmed as being not even a Republican on record, which is a fact that has been detailed within the books of Trump that have been written since the early `90's.

Therefore, because the American public have once again proven to the world how apathy rules the average American life, at least half the vote for the American Presidency should be taken out of America's hands because of the electoral incompetence that is consistently demonstrated among the American masses which has prevailed for years within the USA since the time of Eisenhower.

If every American got out and voted in a perfect world and the entire American public duked it out between Trump and Clinton, I would simply go away and you would never hear from me again.

But because only 51% of the entire American population even got up off their fat, dumb asses to vote in the Presidential Election in the first place... and of that 51%, 51% of that resultant group voted Republican as statistics have revealed, that also means that only 26% of the entire American population brought Trump into Office.

It is disgusting that the rest of the G20 Nations are being directly affected by the mentality of only 26% of the entire American population! That is absolutely insane and even more absurd than Donald Trump himself is. And statistically speaking, those 26% I make reference to were comprised primarily of un-employed White males whom had not been educated beyond completion of public high school standards. That is a known fact.

AND NOW, you are telling me that you are opposed to any other Nation intervening with the U.S. Electoral process, even though it would be in the world's best interest if a little more intelligence was surgically implanted into at least half the mix for the betterment of all concerned, including the betterment of America's own ineptitude? Really? You really think it's OK for 26% of America's un-educated, un-employed White masses to have essentially hijacked America's integrity as a competing Nation on the world stage of Trade and Commerce, only because they were the ones who actually got out to vote? Explain your position to me, if you will.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Now lets all calm down here. Name calling and insulting a culture because of what some of their business and political leaders have done in the past is both pointless ans stereotyping in the worst way. Sure , there are idiot Americans.. But that holds true for every other nationality. Sure, Trump is a dozen kinds of fool and bad person generally. But I see his election as the next phase in the decline of America, which as an outsider who is somewhat prepared for it, I can view with a certain calm. But without the people to vote him in, (who will pay the highest price for electing him by the way), then the US would continue with Business as usual, which for a time Hilary used as a slogan, which would only have made the eventual demise worse for a larger number. Remember that each effort to delay the recession which should have happened has only built up more pressure behind a creaking dam wall. So while trump is am unmitigated economic disaster, he is in fact primarily Americas disaster.. Not the GFC we already had.. Sadly, GFC mark2 will happen anyway, but was in fact heading for us anyway. However Americas removal of itself as a global trade force will damage America all the more because of this. So in short, Trump is worse for America and probably better for the world than the alternative, which as before would spread the debt and the pain globally.
Thats the background..
Now, The American way of having an unhealthy, under-educated, poorly housed and deprived underclass is going to come back and bite them.. But that cannot see this, yet. Wait until several million poor people with nothing to feed their families decide its OK to use the guns they all own to take what they want from those who have. A break down of Law and Order.. Dreadful.. But, that will be Americas problem, because they either voted you it, or failed to vote against it.
I vote for the government of my own country in a way I hope solves the most problems for the most people. I will not take responsibility for decades of neglect and hatred in a culture I have no place in, holding different core values on how the wealth of the nation should be spent.
What will happen depends on a number of choices that have yet to be made.. But, it is definitely that as much as global trade will be hurt,The rest of the world will cope, and learn and no doubt move onto the next trade empire, probably China, which will no doubt tilt the field to suit themselves. And in truth that may hurt America even more, but wont worry anyone else at all. In the end, life goes on..
swirlie · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

OK, I'm calm now... 🌬🔥💨

I hold the same view you describe of America and have been of that same opinion for several years now. I believe however, that the incipient spin America has been in for several decades, will eventually mutate itself into a full spiral dive which will be precipitated by the illusion of the Stock Market finally being realized by younger generations that will follow. From that realization, more of America's truth will begin to unravel across the globe yielding the true value of of America's net-net worth.

Regarding your point.. "Wait until several million poor people with nothing to feed their families decide its OK to use the guns they all own to take what they want from those who have. A break down of Law and Order.. Dreadful.. But, that will be Americas problem, because they either voted for it, or failed to vote against it".

There has already been a book written about that exact eventuality. That book is called "Blood in the Streets" (Author's name not coming to mind at this moment). Perhaps you have read it. Perhaps you wrote it! The essence of the book however, describes the grave current situation in America to be exactly as you too describe it will likely unfold. To survive as an American living anywhere within the USA when this eventuality is finally made manifest at America's own hand, one need not stock-pile food and water in their basement to ensure one's survival, for the most valuable commodity to humankind in America will be ammunition for their firearm.

Case in point, Remington Firearms of the USA just declared bankruptcy protection under Chapter 11 today. They are but one of hundreds of corporations that are in bankruptcy protection across America. Ironically however, they manufacture ammunition for American-made firearms. Let the stockpiling begin! 🕳

Leggylawyer · 36-40, F
American political and economic power has peaked and under Trump it appears to be looking inward and once again heading for isolationism. China on the other hand is in the economic ascendancy and looking to expand its influence through things like its Belt and Rail initiative.
hunkalove · 61-69, M
America is done. It's China's world now.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@hunkalove I suspect you are right. Right place, right time and the will to do it.
SW-User
@TJNewton thank you so much 💕
TJNewton · M
@SW-User Which david ? lol bowie will always be my number 1 but you know i love mr byrne too :)
TJNewton · M
@SW-User Your welcome he does another bowie song too this one was his tribute to his friend david bowie i love this one too

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5jCEDk9LfE]
America will not weaken.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@EugenieLaBorgia (smiles) "Don' whip dis po' tired body no mo' Missy.."
@whowasthatmaskedman Ohh..the Lone Ranger!!
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@EugenieLaBorgia (takes his hat off to a Lady) "At your service Ma'am"
TJNewton · M
Dumbfuck trump should stick to fucking porn stars instead of fucking america up
TJNewton · M
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@TJNewton They are a contender.. But rather fragile themselves.
hunkalove · 61-69, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Whaddya mean we, Kemosabe?

 
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