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Isn't the point of The Dark Side of The Force that it's "easy" power?

Easy as in it's not as hard to get a hold of plenty of it, yet it corrupts the hell out of you.

Then why is Kylo Ren having such a hard time with it?

In the entire series we've seen characters slip to the Dark Side by accident...Luke at the end of Return of The Jedi...Leia during the same film apparently tapped into the Dark Side to kill Jabba...and lets not forget the single most famous force user to fall to the Dark Side...Anakin Skywalker.

Yet...even though Ren IS a Skywalker...or at least has Skywalker blood...AND the fact that he's trying his absolute best to be as evil as he can, he doesn't seem to have made much progress.

I would go on to make a point about Rey having such an easy time with The Light Side, even though Jedi require more training and discipline to master their talents...but I feel like that point has been brought up and argued enough, with a fairly reasonable conclusion.

Still...there are plenty of "other" Jedi who've fallen to The Dark side as well...during the age of The Old Republic, Jedi defected to The Sith in DROVES...they weren't brainwashed or anything...then again, this simple fact could say a lot of things about the way the Jedi taught their students back then.
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
The whole point that's repeatedly made over and over again ad nauseam in Star Wars is that the Dark Side is empowered by emotion, primarily negative but not entirely. The Light Side exists without emotion, as in completely without it. Love is not Light Side because it's love, love is Dark Side because it's emotion. Thus the Dark Side can feed off of itself, being empowered by emotion and creating more of it which then empowers it further, but it corrupts. The stronger the emotion the more powerful the Dark Side user can become and negative emotions are usually the strongest, so that's what's favored. There's also the fact that positive emotions often give way to strong negative ones(the heartbreak after a love lost or betrayal), so there's that to factor in too.

The Light Side is static and does not greatly empower its users whatsoever, it is simply a natural flow of energy which exists in the universe and can be utilized by those with the aptitude. (Whether you see it as channeled through midichlorians or not, the principle is the same.) So a Jedi can never achieve the individual strength of a Sith, period, without succumbing to the Dark Side to some degree or another. It just doesn't work that way. However a Jedi is generally in greater control of their abilities as their judgment is not clouded by intense emotion, which can allow them an upper hand under the right circumstances. Arguably it's this intense power which the Sith wield which is what causes them to be physically deteriorated over time, but the specifics are never nailed down very well on that.

tl;dr the space monks don't have jack shit on the space berzerkers for raw power, but they're also less likely to get themselves killed through their own fault.
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@Fangirlsarah1996 Is that not a degree of overconfidence in regards to their own ability to defend against threats, though? Surely they'd have to deal with occasional fallen padawans.
Fangirlsarah1996 · 26-30, F
@UndeadPrivateer Nah, they just didn't ever teach them about The Dark Side.

They probably told them lies saying that their dicks would fall off if they turned to The Dark Side...that kind of stuff.
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@Fangirlsarah1996 But you don't need to learn about it to channel the Dark Side in the heat of the moment. I always remember that being dangled over people's heads in the EU. 🤔
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
Kylo Ren's conflict makes sense to me. He's not inherently a bad person, but he's been a victim of circumstances which led him down a dark path.

Rey's not totally on the light side though. Pure light side means no emotion. George Lucas really shot himself in the foot when he wrote that, given that our protagonists showing little emotion doesn't make for a fantastic story, so the only way to make it work is to undermine the very nature of the Jedi, but whatever. Clearly the writers of the new movies understand this, because they're portraying Rey as more of a Grey-ish force user than a pure Light side user, and kind of moving away from the Jedi with Luke's death, which was nicely exemplified by Yoda's attitude towards the Jedi texts.

They're doing the same thing with the dark side and the Sith though. Both our main force using characters aren't pure light or dark, and aren't Jedi or Sith, but they each sway far enough in opposite directions to be at odds. It makes for a much more complex and interesting story to me. In the past (in canon movies) there were good guys, bad guys, and one guy who hated sand, and that was the entire spectrum of light and dark. What we have now is better.
SW-User
I think they call it "plot". It's a power much greater than we could ever understand.
Fangirlsarah1996 · 26-30, F
@SW-User Yes, but another nice word is consistency.

I mean...what's the point of Kylo turning to The Dark Side when in the end it takes way more work, forces him to sacrifice more and then results in him gaining far less power than he would as a Jedi?

I mean sure there was *that* plot twist thingy in the movie *Spoilers*
SW-User
@Fangirlsarah1996 I dunno. I just know Disney makes a lot of money with bad Star Wars movies that are fun to watch.
I just treat them as fanmade movies
Fangirlsarah1996 · 26-30, F
@SW-User Yeah, they're dumb fun, just like the rest of the franchise...they just seem off.

Like a fan movie.

It's legitimately the same feeling I get when I "try" watching any Star Trek fan movies...it just [i]feels[/i] different.
vetguy1991 · 51-55, M
Well it is more seductive
vetguy1991 · 51-55, M
@Fangirlsarah1996 well yoda said it was quicker and easier
Fangirlsarah1996 · 26-30, F
@vetguy1991 Quicker and easier sure...but look what happened to Vader.
vetguy1991 · 51-55, M
@Fangirlsarah1996 well he did turn it around at the end

 
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