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rckt148 · 61-69, M
A gasafier that works on wood ,
The smoke from burning wood used for fuel actually works ..
But I’ve only known of 1 person using it to power a truck ,,
But it did work ..
Was going to build one myself but only talked about it ,never built one ..
Wouldn’t look good in the trunk of an 84 Mustang ,,
But I might yet make a still ..
My relatives ran trucks on moonshine ,
To work in todays engines it would need some gas too ,,
But anything that cuts the cost ..
I knew how to grow weed back in the day and not get seen from the air ,,
I think I could use the same methods to hide a still ..
But I’m talking theory for the sake of conversation ,
I don’t need any feds looking for untaxed alcohol ..trying to take my land ..
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@rckt148 I saw a magazine write up of a man who converted his truck to run as a gasifier. He starts it with a bit of gas and after it gets running switches it over to wood gas. He lives in a rural area with lots of timber.
rckt148 · 61-69, M
@cherokeepatti
The man I know of needs no gas ..
He starts off with wood like lighter knot pine that has like turpentine oils in it ,,
I know you know about it ..
Then uses saw mill scrap after that ..
He also powers the saw mill with the truck (or he did )
The truck was destroyed and now he has a new one ,,
But he proved the old time technique works ,,

MasterLee · 56-60, M
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Hydrogen usage has many many problems to overcome none of which are feasible at the moment including simple things like generation and storage and transportation and safety. It takes a lot of energy to generate hydrogen whether it comes from water or natural gas. Some say that it takes more energy to generate the hydrogen than you get from burning the hydrogen. Then there is the problem of storage. Hydrogen is extremely hard to store. Either it is kept at extremely high pressure or it is cooled to liquid both of which take a lot of energy. Hydrogen is also very small and quickly degenerates any vessel it is kept in as it simply goes between the atoms of the material that is keeping it. It makes steel very brittle and easy to break in an amazingly short period of time. Now imagine having a tank of hydrogen in your car. What happens in a minor collision if the tank has become brittle? Ever held a match over a test tube of hydrogen? It makes a great BANG as it all ignites at once. From our present technology I would guess that hydrogen will never be a fuel for cars.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
Supposedly the engine that runs on water has been around for decades now, it will need batteries to convert the water into it's component chemicals but hydrogen and oxygen in a traditional combustion engine, why wouldn't it work?
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@GeniUs just looked this up yesterday. It takes twice as much hydrogen to make a car operate then it does gasoline.
But the hydrogen causes the metal to get brittle.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@Dainbramadge I have no knowledge of the hydrogen car other than, 'it's probably out there somewhere' my concern when somebody told me about this before, 'was does it consume the hydrogen?' Because this will very quickly become a problem. I was told it is returned as a by product but I wasn't reassured.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@GeniUs yeah I just read about it yesterday. I was looking up hydrogen fusion.
I guess the block has to be aluminum because hydrogen impregnation makes cast more brittle.
Then there's that gas that it produces NOx I think it was called.
Mazda and four other companies are working on a hydrogen powered car.
I wanted to do it with my 62 chrysler imperial.
It's got plenty of room to store the water. And seperating the hydrogen from the water is super super easy.
I got a little sidetracked.
It burns the hydrogen which is highly flammable.
The only negative emissions it has is that NOx.
FrozenWasteland · 61-69, M
There are a few options, but none of them scale real well. Yet.

Fuel cell vehicles that run on hydrogen are probably the closest to workable at the moment, but hydrogen is expensive to make and it's horrible stuff to store and move around. There are ways to make it on-board (using the energy in aluminum to make it from water, as one example), but aluminum isn't cheap to make either.

I still think battery power is the best option at the moment -- but current technology just doesn't quite work well enough in many applications.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@ninalanyon Do the buses have to go far without charge? I haven't seen what they had in York anywhere else.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@GeniUs The route is about 15 km each way. It takes about half an hour (lots of stops). The buses are'off the shelf' from Volvo, 38 seats plus 50 standing. They started running them in 2018. They charge at each end of the route, apparently it takes about ten minutes.

See https://www.brakar.no/prosjekter/elbuss/#:~:text=I%20februar%202018%20tok%20Brakar,som%20bussen%20kan%20lades%20ved.

Google translate does a pretty fair job with Norwegian.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@GeniUs Here's Volvo's page about the 7900 Electric bus https://www.volvobuses.com/en/city-and-intercity/buses/volvo-7900-electric.html
SW-User
The Flintstones had one.
Tminus6453 · M
There have been cars invented that run on hydrogen, which is basically water, oil lobbyist have made sure oil is king, and will be for years to come
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Tminus6453 hydrogen releases a chemical NOx I believe it was called. Pretty bad stuff. But Mazda in Kawasaki and others are working on an aluminum blocked engine that will run on hydrogen. I guess the big one now is getting rid of that nox there
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Tminus6453 I don’t know what this man has come up with if it’s hydrogen fusion or something different. He has made one prototype and was wanting to test it out on other vehicles.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Missouri does have some highway pick up trucks that work for the state powered by propane gas. It’s possible
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@MrBrownstone Not propane gas or anything you have to buy. Basically free energy with a device installed on the vehicle. A retired engineered told a friend about it yesterday. He made $8 million off of one invention that the oil company he worked for stole from him after he retired. A friend he worked with recognized the invention being used in Dubai & took photos after touring a facility and then contacted him & the company offered him $8 million for him not to make a lawsuit.
SW-User
[c=4C0073]yes someday it will be possible and cheap enough to implement in cars .. but for now or the near future, no chance.[/c]
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@SW-User people are working on inventions.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
Hydrogen fuel cells seem to be the way they go.
They create all kinds of electricity with no emissions.
Dlrannie · 31-35, F
Yes - they have been around for years and are called peddle cars 😂🙂
Highskirt · 56-60, M
@Dlrannie love it🤣
jackson55 · M
Maybe a pedal car?
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