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[b]LILLEY: High school student suspended, arrested for saying only 2 genders [/b]

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-catholic-high-school-student-suspended-then-arrested-for-saying-there-are-only-two-genders

Next person to get suspended and arrested might be [b]you[/b].
Let's have a trial: How many genders are there?
Leave your answer in the comments.
exotic · 22-25, F
I can't believe people actually normalize this insanity. This student has had his education and future compromised for what is literally nothing.

He didn't bully or specifically target anyone, and he was sharing an [b]opinion[/b] in a class discussion. Moreover, he was essentially stating a truth, which is that in biology there are only two genders.

If we follow the biological approach, it teaches that gender traits are a result of biological sex (of which there's only two).
It was only when psychologists began toying with ideas around gender, that people thought differently. They are wrong to think differently, but rational people still have to tolerate it. It would be nice if they could at least accept that normal, balanced people will, quite often, believe that gender is a reflection of sex, and that there are only male and female. People who disagree with that do so because they can't see that sex and gender have been distorted, because we live in an unhinged society in the West.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
@exotic Well You will probably never be hired to do the news on CNN !
exotic · 22-25, F
@FragileHeart you really need to learn what "right-wing" is. Social values, hardly any of mine you truly know, are not the only consideration when ascertaining if someone is left or right. It seems to be all people think about now, but there's also economic and political viewpoints that are an important factor when we categorize a person's political identity.

"significant" is an appropriate term. Trans men and women acknowledge these differences because they act in ways that correspond with specific gender traits.

Why do trans men want to experience womanhood if it isn't all that different?
exotic · 22-25, F
@FragileHeart copy/pasting from an unidentified source isn't helping you, especially when it still only points to there being two genders.
deadgerbil · 22-25
There are more than two genders and that becomes readily apparent in the context of other societies that have more than two genders. Goes to show how it's a social construct, yet some people are glued to the idea that there can only be two.

They typically conflate their idea of two genders with there being two sexes, male/female.
BlueVeins · 22-25
There are only three colors -- red, yellow, and blue! Anything else is FAR LEFT WOKISM!
Alison · 18-21, F
Scan read. Its seems they were transpeople in the class and he was being a dick🤷‍♀️.
SW-User
@Alison yeah I’ve seen a picture of this guy. He was wearing a Save Canada cap, which pretty much sums up his character
Gloomy · F
more than two and good sounds like the dude belongs in a re-education camp.
rrraksamam · 31-35, M
@Gloomy @Funlov You're both under arrest!
Funlov · M
@rrraksamam take me away free meals 👍
SW-User
@rrraksamam You realise, also, that this dude wasn't arrested for his views on gender; he was arrested for breaching an exclusion order.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
I'm positive there are many people out there, That have transitioned from male to female, So can anyone tell Me of one that has given birth to a child yet !!!
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@GeistInTheMachine I live in Canada. We don't have Rep or Dem. Give the video a listen. It has nothing to do with politics. It is simply the account of a woman who tried to transition and then changed her mind. She says that the biggest factor in her desire to trans was from the internet. People affirming her delusions. Give it a listen. The only thing you have to lose is your delusions.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@hippyjoe1955 You are influenced by our politics, however. Look at Jordan Peterson. And anyway Left and Right is not just an American thing.

Reguardless, we can agree to disagree without being outright delusional.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@GeistInTheMachine I am not talking politics. We are talking about mass psychosis where vulnerable people are becoming cult members and it is not a good thing. Give the video a listen or google detransition stories. You are on the wrong side of history.
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
There are more than two genders but only two sexes. It's not that difficult but unfortunately some people rather want to bully others and put them down rather than to engage with queer people and educate themselves.
@FragileHeart
The one laughing at your comment is among those.
SW-User
There are many more than 2 genders, but only 2 sexes.

No one seems to care that gender and sex are very different. In fact, people on this site don't want to know that: they get angry and block you.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
Gender is a spectrum. The dude sounds like an edgy douche. Just like you shouldn't be allowed to call people racial slurs, you shouldn't have the right to be a transphobic dick.
exotic · 22-25, F
@pillowprincess as usual, a totally pitiful contribution from you.

you're just soo boring
SW-User
@FragileHeart I'm certain there's more to this than meets the eye. I very much doubt he was suspended for respectfully disagreeing with a certain point of view in a classroom discussion. All the sources we've seen so far have come from far-right websites with a history of hate speech and fake news such as the Epoch times, and Josh Alexander himself is part of Save Canada: a far-right Christian fundamentalist organisation that among other things is anti-vax and deeply transphobic.
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
@SW-User Thought so and since I couldn't find many sources on the matter I could only base my assesment on the articles that exist. Anyway transphobia and any kind of exclusionary behaviour should have no place in schools or in society.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
Liberal outlets like CNN are perpetuating the hoax that transgenders are suffering massive physical discrimination, Just as They perpetuated the hoax that police where out there just to gun down African Americans. When in fact, 75% of police shootings in the U.S. involve whites, Hispanics, Or Asians. My employer seems to have a propensity to hire a lot of transgender people, And We have never had even a mild problem at work !
Majorsite · 61-69, M
@GeistInTheMachine You watch CNN, You are a sheep.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@Majorsite I literally said I don't like CNN.

I don't watch CNN. What do you watch? The Onion?
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@Majorsite Ratings don't make something true. That's just anti-intellectual. Appeal to numbers.

A lot of people DON'T watch crappy corporate lamestream news like FOX and Newsmax.

Especially younger people and people who like more independant media and who care about where their news comes from and looking at multiple sources, like a smart person.
He was arrested upon returning to the school after having been suspended, for trespassing.

His being suspended was bad enough to be an issue. But thats not the same reason which he was arrested for.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
The student got suspended at which time the entire school should have walked out in support.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@rrraksamam Yes. I do know that the event happened in Ontario. I also know that you don't submit your way out of a tyranny.
rrraksamam · 31-35, M
@hippyjoe1955 You choose to die on the battlefield then
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@rrraksamam A brave man dies but once. A coward dies a 100 times before breakfast.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
Two, Period, End of sentence !!!
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
@Majorsite here just one of so many links I could provide
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
@Majorsite [quote]Transgender humans represent the complexity and diversity that are fundamental features of life, evolution and nature itself. That is a fact.[/quote]
SW-User
@Majorsite [quote]Your male or female from birth. Period[/quote]

Correct. That is your SEX. Your GENDER is something entirely different. It's what YOU identify as.
Ontheroad · M
I'm decidedly in the "who cares" school of thought on that whole issue. Respect me for who I am and I'll respect you for who you are. In others words, you do you and I'll do me.
Justmeraeagain · 51-55, F
Whatever any one's position on the subject is this is damn ridiculous.
The people screaming intolerance are being just that.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@Justmeraeagain I'm not in the slightest ashamed to say I'm intolerant of intolerance.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
Well, Anyway, Truth promotes character, One thing the fake news will ever achieve again.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
Must work !
Funlov · M
@Majorsite name calling gets people nowhere every body has a right to vote the way they think and see the world even you right I looked at your profile did some one tell you this is porn hub and I saw your comment to the guy posting pictures of his wife now that’s your right as a free man as it is for them to vote for the party they want 🤔
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
Interesting that this was a "catholic" high school...

Perhaps someone should ask the administrators how many genders are mentioned in the Bible?
And when they realize the answer, ask them if they'll be banning the Bible as well? 🤔
rrraksamam · 31-35, M
@wildbill83 Perhaps they don't read the Bible
Gender should be seen as fluid
Funlov · M
@rrraksamam really thank you day was not a waste now I no something I did not 😊👍
@Funlov think ofvthings that are on a spectrum.... like autism and how any person can be anywhere on that spectrum, and that it can change
Funlov · M
@InOtterWords did not no that it’s way over my head I’m just a construction guy. Thank you for explaining it.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
Oh, Sorry everyone, I forgot that about one in every couple million births result in a hermaphrodite, I stand corrected !
rrraksamam · 31-35, M
@Majorsite Correction accepted!
revenant · F
There are 2 but I have to choose hypocrisy for my survival.
revenant · F
@Majorsite I am in Toronto and I know you can get arrested for any infringement of the woke policies.
Majorsite · 61-69, M
@revenant Yes, under Covid, Trudeau has turned Canada into a communist country !
rrraksamam · 31-35, M
@revenant You're under arrest!
Nomad7 · 22-25, M
As Jose Mourinho once said, “I prefer not to speak. If I speak, I am in big trouble”
rrraksamam · 31-35, M
Chickie · F
2, sex and gender are the same thing!
Chickie · F
@rrraksamam they can lick my ass
rrraksamam · 31-35, M
@Chickie My pronouns are he/him
SW-User
@Chickie No, they're not.
Funlov · M
2 that’s all 🙌
rrraksamam · 31-35, M
@Funlov You're under arrest!
Funlov · M
@rrraksamam I’ll take that 😊
SW-User
I think the real issue is people forgetting that gender in this sense is really gender identity. People can identify any way they want but I don't have to agree there is more than two genders. Gender and gender identity are not the same things even if people think they are.

"The words sex and gender have a long and intertwined history. In the 15th century gender expanded from its use as a term for a grammatical subclass to join sex in referring to either of the two primary biological forms of a species, a meaning sex has had since the 14th century; phrases like "the male sex" and "the female gender" are both grounded in uses established for more than five centuries. In the 20th century sex and gender each acquired new uses. Sex developed its "sexual intercourse" meaning in the early part of the century (now its more common meaning), and a few decades later gender gained a meaning referring to the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex, as in "gender roles." Later in the century, gender also came to have application in two closely related compound terms: gender identity refers to a person's internal sense of being male, female, some combination of male and female, or neither male nor female; gender expression refers to the physical and behavioral manifestations of one's gender identity. By the end of the century gender by itself was being used as a synonym of gender identity."
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gender
rrraksamam · 31-35, M
@SW-User I do that quite often
SW-User
@rrraksamam Beats having the admins shut you up? 🤭
rrraksamam · 31-35, M
@SW-User I'd prefer it not come down to that
iamonfire696 · 36-40, F
People really don’t seem to understand that gender and sex are not the same thing.

I don’t know why they get so triggered at the idea there are more than 2 genders.

Why is there so much hate to the point that political leaders think these people don’t have a place in society?
There are only 2 fucking gender. It called biology. There only a man lion and a female lion just like in thousands of other species. But oh no, we ppl think we are soo fucking different bec of what psychology 🙄🙄🙄 that mindset wasn't in the 1950s to 60s or even 70s. It just recently it changed bec of stupid fucking woke society ugh. Ppl are idoits if they think there are more than 2 genders.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@Darksideinthenight2 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muxe
revenant · F
@Gloomy we are not earthworms ....

and which indigenous societies have more than 2 genders ?
candycane · 31-35, F
It's getting out of hand just like humans always do with a problem
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@candycane just start faking outrage and suing people for using the wrong pronoun, and mocking your sexual identity as an attack helicopter... 🤔


 
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