BohoBabe · M
I think all of the right-wing internet cultures of the last decade were astroturfed by billionaires.
We know for a fact that all of these movements were born and cultivated on the 4chan /pol/ forum, Jeffery Epstein was regularly in contact with the owner of /pol/, and Epstein funded right-wing media. 4chan is also perfect for astroturfing with bots, because it's anonymous and you don't need an account to post. So with bots, Epstein could make it look like these ideas were much more common than they really were.
We know for a fact that all of these movements were born and cultivated on the 4chan /pol/ forum, Jeffery Epstein was regularly in contact with the owner of /pol/, and Epstein funded right-wing media. 4chan is also perfect for astroturfing with bots, because it's anonymous and you don't need an account to post. So with bots, Epstein could make it look like these ideas were much more common than they really were.
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BohoBabe · M
@ArishMell TBH, I think Qanon evolved organically from a handful of terminally online Incels and Neo-Nazis. But Epstein used bots and the media to make it look like Qanan was so big, it had to be talked about seriously. That gave it the legitimacy it needed to draw in much more people.
It was the same thing with the Tea Party. It may have been organic at some point, but it was quickly taken up by the Republicans. That's why in the beginning, the Tea Party was more libertarian, but then it became a standard conservative movement.
It was the same thing with the Tea Party. It may have been organic at some point, but it was quickly taken up by the Republicans. That's why in the beginning, the Tea Party was more libertarian, but then it became a standard conservative movement.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
I'm sure them policy papers, like "Which Path to Persia"is real! And - the USA has a bipartisan coalition in Washington, what's been following these policies! Together! With plans! For decades!
It's you and me that's against having five year plans! We pick free market and small government for people, they rule.
I'm a Credence fan, really, but their anti Communism is dangerous.
It's you and me that's against having five year plans! We pick free market and small government for people, they rule.
I'm a Credence fan, really, but their anti Communism is dangerous.
jackjjackson · M
Wouldn’t that be a vast improvement to the last five decades over there? @CurrentName
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jackjjackson · M
You believe In should could the region? It wouldn’t be a bad thing if Saudi Arabia controlled the region and Iran ceased to exist. @Roundandroundwego
ArishMell · 70-79, M
None because I don't follow them in the first place.
Perhaps politicians do try to plan a few decades ahead, but in a multi-party, multi-media democratic system it would be a considerable gamble to predict strategy in more than very shallow, general ways.
Really the most a political party can do is devise its general ideology and try to maintain that.
Apart from the possibility of losing the next election, a party's main difficulty is trying to predict any practical response to any significant national and international political, financial and social developments more than a few years ahead. Indeed, I think it is becoming harder than it might have been a few decades ago.
So they work more from election to election than decade to decade. The only nations that can work in decade steps are the single-party, authoritarian ones designed for continuity of ideology and system, with leaders who may be so for life but are still temporal caretakers of the system.
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On "conspiracy theories" generally, I test them by a few basic questions, the first of course being, "Are they even credible?" Most aren't!
Perhaps politicians do try to plan a few decades ahead, but in a multi-party, multi-media democratic system it would be a considerable gamble to predict strategy in more than very shallow, general ways.
Really the most a political party can do is devise its general ideology and try to maintain that.
Apart from the possibility of losing the next election, a party's main difficulty is trying to predict any practical response to any significant national and international political, financial and social developments more than a few years ahead. Indeed, I think it is becoming harder than it might have been a few decades ago.
So they work more from election to election than decade to decade. The only nations that can work in decade steps are the single-party, authoritarian ones designed for continuity of ideology and system, with leaders who may be so for life but are still temporal caretakers of the system.
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On "conspiracy theories" generally, I test them by a few basic questions, the first of course being, "Are they even credible?" Most aren't!
Bumbles · 56-60, M
I am old school: no conspiracy theories.
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Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@ArishMell sure, cuz you're not American, you're allowed to gaslight for the Murkans. No need to apologize. You're winning. Huhhh duhhh meh, everything and nothing! Plus, whatever!
Every mainstream Westerner has been a genocidal apologist for fascism.
Every mainstream Westerner has been a genocidal apologist for fascism.
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