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MoveAlong · 70-79, M
It's not just a tortoise and hare race to the moon. There's an economic and military race going on too.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@MoveAlong So, who is going to win? Would be heartbroken if China wins?
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@sree251

So, who is going to win? Would be heartbroken if China wins?

You are right about the tortoise and hare analogy. For a decades now China has been long term planning while the US has been short term reacting. Or at least that's what it looks like to me.

I don't know who is going to win or what winning would even look like. But we seem to be two world powers that are going in different directions. They are becoming more influential in the world while the world is becoming more skeptical and less trusting of the US.

By your terms, China. America may be first. But China will keep going and make it work.. This isnt just politics. Asia is the economic future..😷
@sree251 I absolutely agree . The story of Asias progress is part of the story. The other side is Americas failure to continue. Its almost as if they reached the Moon, then sat down and said ""Game over.. We won" and focused on reaping the rewards. Not looking for the next challenge. The fall of the Soviet Union left America with no direction. So they became a self satisfied hedonistic society.. And others picked up the slack and moved in..😷
sree251 · 41-45, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
The fall of the Soviet Union left America with no direction. So they became a self satisfied hedonistic society..

Hitler did say that America was a nation of playboys. Perhaps, it is in our DNA, this hedonistic bent. Yet, we are prudes compared to the Europeans. We have a law against prostitution but not so in Europe. Infidelity is rife in France.
@sree251 I think there is a whole theseis in there on the differing attititudes. My personal view is that the regilious bent in America sees all this as "Sin"but still cant help themselves. Where more secular nations accept it as human behaviour, to be done discretely..Religion is certainly a big factor in America that isnt seen in other developed countries..(Naturally Americans see this as "normal")😷
Munumbis · 46-50, M
Tarrifs will put a stop to China. Just stop giving them our money. None of that should have ever happened in the first place.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Munumbis
Tarrifs will put a stop to China. Just stop giving them our money. None of that should have ever happened in the first place.

We give China money?
You do realize this militant thinking is literally why NASA was created to prevent it.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Paradoxical, isn't it?
swirlie · 31-35, F
Who gets to the moon next? The US never got to the moon the first time, so anyone who gets there now will be the FIRST persons to ever walk on the moon.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
Space will be like the Wild West: every man (it usually was) for himself. Even today that attitude exists and, to my horror, is being championed by the descendants of the early immigrants who brought 'civilisation' to that particular frontier. Not sure why the Moon, or anywhere else, would be free from such an attitude.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK You might want to watch the Apple series For All Mankind. It's an alternative history of what might have happened if the US and Russia had aggressively pursued space exploration and exploitation after the moon race was over.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@sree251 I can’t see why they would be any different, but perhaps more mealy mouthed about it.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@MoveAlong That sounds really interesting. I’m afraid I don’t subscribe to any of those expensive streaming services.
onewithshoes · 26-30, F
I'm sure the 'space race' was exciting -- two generations ago -- but this pathetic rerun?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@onewithshoes
I'm sure the 'space race' was exciting -- two generations ago -- but this pathetic rerun?

Why is it pathetic this time around? You find it sad? Why?
onewithshoes · 26-30, F
@sree251 Because the Americans look like tortoises compared to their grandfathers.
swirlie · 31-35, F
So now sree251 isn't offering comment to my posts anymore, not since his latest interaction with dog breath DogMan that is! 🤣

You DO know that DogMan is a Canadian, don't you sree? Yes, I know he presents himself as an American on this website, but he's actually a Canadian who lives out in southern Alberta Canada.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@swirlie
So now sree251 isn't offering comment to my posts anymore, not since his latest interaction with dog breath DogMan that is! 🤣

Whoa. I did answer all your comments.

You DO know that DogMan is a Canadian, don't you sree? Yes, I know he presents himself as an American on this website, but he's actually a Canadian who lives out in southern Alberta Canada.

Really? I thought he said he has a farm somewhere in the US. I forget. Doesn't matter to me if he is a Martian coming on as a Californian. I interact with everyone at face value. You've got to be free.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@MoveAlong
I don't know who is going to win or what winning would even look like. But we seem to be two world powers that are going in different directions. They are becoming more influential in the world while the world is becoming more skeptical and less trusting of the US.

We have been the most innovative nation on the planet. China has been catching up through copying what we have created. Steve Jobs did say that there is nothing wrong with copying technology. This is the natural learning process. Why re-invent the wheel for? The point is, why have we turned stupid? We neglect our infrastructure, pay no heed to our fiscal responsibility and well-being of American society. We are fixated on the wrong things.
@sree251 I have to disagree on a few points. The US has not innovated much in half a century.

And China is not copying US tech. To be blunt you don't copy obsolete tech. For example the US is using tariffs to keep Chinese cars out of American markets because if US auto companies had to compete Detroit would be out of business. Western cars are 20 years behind. And Deepseek made the entirety of Silicon Valley look like amateurs.
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