Roundandroundwego · 61-69
War-shington represents the evil population perfectly. Evils are evil and there's only a veneer of purw evil in front.
Miram · 31-35, F
I think it is good that I am in a point of growth that I can empathize with them too.
Having had para-military contracts, you don't get to decide where you get shipped like a piece of equipment.
Their roles were logistics, supplies...etc U.S. central command said there was a broad air-defense umbrella in the region using systems like patriot and thaad, which are primarily designed to intercept ballistic missiles. And large incoming threats at higher altitudes
…but not the small, low flying “kamikaze” drones that Iran has been using in this conflict.
Iran’s attack drones are intentionally cheap, slow, and fly low making them hard to detect on radar and difficult for your conventional air defenses to intercept effectively.
In missions abroad, you rarely ever do resources management equally. There are consequential weaknesses that come with prioritizing specific systems..and the higher-ups know exactly who will get purged first.
It is a calculated sacrifice.
I do wonder though if the soldiers themselves knew they were compromised. Or didn't have the slightest clue.
Having had para-military contracts, you don't get to decide where you get shipped like a piece of equipment.
Their roles were logistics, supplies...etc U.S. central command said there was a broad air-defense umbrella in the region using systems like patriot and thaad, which are primarily designed to intercept ballistic missiles. And large incoming threats at higher altitudes
…but not the small, low flying “kamikaze” drones that Iran has been using in this conflict.
Iran’s attack drones are intentionally cheap, slow, and fly low making them hard to detect on radar and difficult for your conventional air defenses to intercept effectively.
In missions abroad, you rarely ever do resources management equally. There are consequential weaknesses that come with prioritizing specific systems..and the higher-ups know exactly who will get purged first.
It is a calculated sacrifice.
I do wonder though if the soldiers themselves knew they were compromised. Or didn't have the slightest clue.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Miram
The majority of those enlisted in the US military didn't join to become professional soldiers to fight wars. They do so to get a leg up in life to be able to afford a home, have kids, and raise a family. I am not against that and wish the US Government would clean out our inner cities and draft kids into the US military as soon as they graduate high school. Compulsory national service, not for fighting wars but for crime prevention.
The US military has about 2 million men and women in uniform. The majority are not war-ready and battle-fit. Most of them are like those who got whacked in that make-shift US base in Bahrain. There are more of them among the thousands of sailors manning the two carrier strike groups involved in the current war with Iran. They are less battle ready that the suckers we sent to Vietnam to fight Vietcongs who lived in rice paddies eating white rice and salted fish. Our soldiers morale were kept high with a steady supply of ice-cream and Coca Cola in US bases at Long Binh, Cam Ranh, Chu Lai, and Da Nang. Nothing has changed. Same situation wherever we fight our wars.
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We are used to fighting wars of our own choosing. No American has a reason to fight anyone, and the wars we fight are chosen by politicians for nefarious reasons. I would like to see the Secretary of War and the Pentagon relocated to Bahrain to conduct this war against Iran.
Nobody did any prioritizing of anything. Trump believes the US military is as invincible as he is.
The Commander-in-chief doesn't have the slightest clue as he leads us all into the valley of death.
I think it is good that I am in a point of growth that I can empathize with them too.
Having had para-military contracts, you don't get to decide where you get shipped like a piece of equipment.
Having had para-military contracts, you don't get to decide where you get shipped like a piece of equipment.
The majority of those enlisted in the US military didn't join to become professional soldiers to fight wars. They do so to get a leg up in life to be able to afford a home, have kids, and raise a family. I am not against that and wish the US Government would clean out our inner cities and draft kids into the US military as soon as they graduate high school. Compulsory national service, not for fighting wars but for crime prevention.
The US military has about 2 million men and women in uniform. The majority are not war-ready and battle-fit. Most of them are like those who got whacked in that make-shift US base in Bahrain. There are more of them among the thousands of sailors manning the two carrier strike groups involved in the current war with Iran. They are less battle ready that the suckers we sent to Vietnam to fight Vietcongs who lived in rice paddies eating white rice and salted fish. Our soldiers morale were kept high with a steady supply of ice-cream and Coca Cola in US bases at Long Binh, Cam Ranh, Chu Lai, and Da Nang. Nothing has changed. Same situation wherever we fight our wars.
Their roles were logistics, supplies...etc U.S. central command said there was a broad air-defense umbrella in the region using systems like patriot and thaad, which are primarily designed to intercept ballistic missiles. And large incoming threats at higher altitudes
…but not the small, low flying “kamikaze” drones that Iran has been using in this conflict.
Iran’s attack drones are intentionally cheap, slow, and fly low making them hard to detect on radar and difficult for your conventional air defenses to intercept effectively.
…but not the small, low flying “kamikaze” drones that Iran has been using in this conflict.
Iran’s attack drones are intentionally cheap, slow, and fly low making them hard to detect on radar and difficult for your conventional air defenses to intercept effectively.
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We are used to fighting wars of our own choosing. No American has a reason to fight anyone, and the wars we fight are chosen by politicians for nefarious reasons. I would like to see the Secretary of War and the Pentagon relocated to Bahrain to conduct this war against Iran.
In missions abroad, you rarely ever do resources management equally. There are consequential weaknesses that come with prioritizing specific systems..and the higher-ups know exactly who will get purged first.
It is a calculated sacrifice.
It is a calculated sacrifice.
Nobody did any prioritizing of anything. Trump believes the US military is as invincible as he is.
I do wonder though if the soldiers themselves knew they were compromised. Or didn't have the slightest clue.
The Commander-in-chief doesn't have the slightest clue as he leads us all into the valley of death.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Miram
Americans are not the only ones responsible for US foreign policy which is shared by UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, etc.
I am anti-American even though I am one. We have collectively allow ourselves to become an evil force that is endangering the world. When I look at Donald Trump, I see myself: a personification of corruption when God no longer lives in my soul.
I have been labeled an anti-american plenty for my views towards your foreign policy and imperialist military presence.
Americans are not the only ones responsible for US foreign policy which is shared by UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, etc.
I am not anti-American. I am anti US foreign wars that never cease to be needed.
I am anti-American even though I am one. We have collectively allow ourselves to become an evil force that is endangering the world. When I look at Donald Trump, I see myself: a personification of corruption when God no longer lives in my soul.
Rokan · 36-40, M
The reserve units deploy more than the active duty units and many of the gaurd and reserve do it full time rather than part time they are called ARTs because it use to be that they didnt have to wear a uniform when they were off orders but still hired on as a civilian. Hope that answers some of the technicallities for you.
carpediem · M
God bless that US service members who were killed. Lest anyone forget, here are a few others:
April 1983: The Islamic Jihad, an Iran-backed terrorist group, carried out a suicide car bombing at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 17 Americans.
October 1983: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed 241 U.S. military personnel — including 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel — in a truck bombing at a Marine compound in Beirut.
March 1984: Iran-backed Islamic Jihad terrorists kidnapped CIA station chief William Buckley on his way to work in Beirut, ultimately killing him the following year.
September 1984: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed 23 innocent people — including two American service members — in a car bomb attack at the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut.
December 1984: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists hijacked Kuwait Airways Flight 221 en route to Pakistan, diverting it to Tehran — where they brutally tortured and killed two American officials.
June 1985: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists hijacked TWA Flight 847 on its way from Athens to Rome, torturing a U.S. Navy diver before shooting him point blank in the head and tossing his body onto the Beirut airport tarmac.
July 1989: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed U.S. Marine Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him the previous year while serving with a United Nations peacekeeping force in Lebanon.
April 1995: Iran-backed Islamic Jihad terrorists killed eight people — including one American citizen — in a car bomb attack in the Gaza Strip.
August 1995: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber blew up a bus in Jerusalem, killing an American and three other passengers, and wounding more than 100 others.
February 1996: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber blew up another bus in Jerusalem, killing three Americans and wounding three other Americans.
March 1996: A suicide bomber linked to the Iran-backed Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist groups killed 20 people — including two Americans — in a suicide bombing at a Tel Aviv shopping center.
May 1996: Iran-backed terrorists killed an American-Israeli dual citizen and wounded another American citizen in the West Bank.
June 1996: Iran-backed Hezbollah Al-Hijaz terrorists killed 19 U.S. Airmen and wounded nearly 500 others in a truck bombing at a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia.
September 1997: Iran-backed Hamas suicide bombers blew themselves up at a shopping mall in Jerusalem, killing an American-Israeli dual citizen and wounding seven other American citizens.
August 1998: Al-Qaeda suicide bombers, facilitated by Iran-backed Hezbollah, simultaneously bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people — including a dozen American citizens.
August 2001: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist blew up a Jerusalem pizzeria, killing three Americans.
January 2002: An Iran-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade terrorist killed an American-Israeli dual citizen in the West Bank.
July 2002: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist killed five Americans in a bombing at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
June 2003: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber killed 17 people — including an American citizen — on a bus in Jerusalem.
October 2003: Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees terrorists killed three U.S. diplomatic personnel in a bombing in Gaza.
Between 2003 and 2011: Iran-backed militias killed at least 603 U.S. troops in Iraq — “roughly one in every six American combat fatalities in Iraq.”
August 2003: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist blew up a bus in Jerusalem, killing five Americans and wounding one other American.
August 2006: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed American citizen and Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldier Michael Levin during the Second Lebanon War — the only American to die in the conflict.
January 2007: A dozen men affiliated with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force killed five U.S. soldiers and wounded three others in Karbala, Iraq, after disguising themselves as U.S. soldiers and entering the Provincial Joint Coordination Center.
March 2007: Former FBI Agent Robert Levinson disappeared in Iran, likely dying in an Iranian prison.
July 2014: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed two American citizens serving in the IDF.
October 2015: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed an American citizen and his wife in a drive-by shooting in the West Bank.
December 2019: Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah terrorists killed an American civilian contractor and wounded several U.S. service members in a rocket attack at K1 Air Base in Kirkuk, Iraq.
January 2020: 109 U.S. troops suffered traumatic brain injuries in an Iranian ballistic missile attack on the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq.
September 2020: U.S. intelligence indicated the Iranian regime was considering a plot to assassinate the U.S. Ambassador to South Africa.
February 2021: An Iran-backed militia fired a rocket at coalition forces in Erbil, Iraq, wounding a U.S. service member and four U.S. civilian contractors.
July 2021: Iranian-backed militias wounded two U.S. service members in a series of rocket and drone attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria.
September 2022: An Iranian rocket attack killed an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.
November 2022: An IRGC captain orchestrated the killing of an American citizen in Baghdad.
March 2023: An Iranian drone attack killed an American contractor and wounded five U.S. service members and another contractor in a strike on a coalition base in Syria.
October 2023: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed 46 Americans and kidnapped at least 12 Americans in the October 7th massacre.
December 2023: Iran-backed militias wounded three U.S. service members in an attack on Erbil Air Base in Iraq.
January 2024: Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah terrorists killed three U.S. service members and wounded more than 40 other service members in a drone attack against the Tower 22 military base in Jordan.
Between October 2023 and November 2024: Iran and its proxies conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounding more than 180 U.S. service members and killing three service members.
November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump.
June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq.
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April 1983: The Islamic Jihad, an Iran-backed terrorist group, carried out a suicide car bombing at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 17 Americans.
October 1983: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed 241 U.S. military personnel — including 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel — in a truck bombing at a Marine compound in Beirut.
March 1984: Iran-backed Islamic Jihad terrorists kidnapped CIA station chief William Buckley on his way to work in Beirut, ultimately killing him the following year.
September 1984: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed 23 innocent people — including two American service members — in a car bomb attack at the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut.
December 1984: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists hijacked Kuwait Airways Flight 221 en route to Pakistan, diverting it to Tehran — where they brutally tortured and killed two American officials.
June 1985: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists hijacked TWA Flight 847 on its way from Athens to Rome, torturing a U.S. Navy diver before shooting him point blank in the head and tossing his body onto the Beirut airport tarmac.
July 1989: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed U.S. Marine Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him the previous year while serving with a United Nations peacekeeping force in Lebanon.
April 1995: Iran-backed Islamic Jihad terrorists killed eight people — including one American citizen — in a car bomb attack in the Gaza Strip.
August 1995: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber blew up a bus in Jerusalem, killing an American and three other passengers, and wounding more than 100 others.
February 1996: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber blew up another bus in Jerusalem, killing three Americans and wounding three other Americans.
March 1996: A suicide bomber linked to the Iran-backed Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist groups killed 20 people — including two Americans — in a suicide bombing at a Tel Aviv shopping center.
May 1996: Iran-backed terrorists killed an American-Israeli dual citizen and wounded another American citizen in the West Bank.
June 1996: Iran-backed Hezbollah Al-Hijaz terrorists killed 19 U.S. Airmen and wounded nearly 500 others in a truck bombing at a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia.
September 1997: Iran-backed Hamas suicide bombers blew themselves up at a shopping mall in Jerusalem, killing an American-Israeli dual citizen and wounding seven other American citizens.
August 1998: Al-Qaeda suicide bombers, facilitated by Iran-backed Hezbollah, simultaneously bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people — including a dozen American citizens.
August 2001: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist blew up a Jerusalem pizzeria, killing three Americans.
January 2002: An Iran-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade terrorist killed an American-Israeli dual citizen in the West Bank.
July 2002: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist killed five Americans in a bombing at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
June 2003: An Iran-backed Hamas suicide bomber killed 17 people — including an American citizen — on a bus in Jerusalem.
October 2003: Iran-backed Popular Resistance Committees terrorists killed three U.S. diplomatic personnel in a bombing in Gaza.
Between 2003 and 2011: Iran-backed militias killed at least 603 U.S. troops in Iraq — “roughly one in every six American combat fatalities in Iraq.”
August 2003: An Iran-backed Hamas terrorist blew up a bus in Jerusalem, killing five Americans and wounding one other American.
August 2006: Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists killed American citizen and Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldier Michael Levin during the Second Lebanon War — the only American to die in the conflict.
January 2007: A dozen men affiliated with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force killed five U.S. soldiers and wounded three others in Karbala, Iraq, after disguising themselves as U.S. soldiers and entering the Provincial Joint Coordination Center.
March 2007: Former FBI Agent Robert Levinson disappeared in Iran, likely dying in an Iranian prison.
July 2014: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed two American citizens serving in the IDF.
October 2015: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed an American citizen and his wife in a drive-by shooting in the West Bank.
December 2019: Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah terrorists killed an American civilian contractor and wounded several U.S. service members in a rocket attack at K1 Air Base in Kirkuk, Iraq.
January 2020: 109 U.S. troops suffered traumatic brain injuries in an Iranian ballistic missile attack on the Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq.
September 2020: U.S. intelligence indicated the Iranian regime was considering a plot to assassinate the U.S. Ambassador to South Africa.
February 2021: An Iran-backed militia fired a rocket at coalition forces in Erbil, Iraq, wounding a U.S. service member and four U.S. civilian contractors.
July 2021: Iranian-backed militias wounded two U.S. service members in a series of rocket and drone attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria.
September 2022: An Iranian rocket attack killed an American citizen in Iraqi Kurdistan.
November 2022: An IRGC captain orchestrated the killing of an American citizen in Baghdad.
March 2023: An Iranian drone attack killed an American contractor and wounded five U.S. service members and another contractor in a strike on a coalition base in Syria.
October 2023: Iran-backed Hamas terrorists killed 46 Americans and kidnapped at least 12 Americans in the October 7th massacre.
December 2023: Iran-backed militias wounded three U.S. service members in an attack on Erbil Air Base in Iraq.
January 2024: Iran-backed Kataib Hezbollah terrorists killed three U.S. service members and wounded more than 40 other service members in a drone attack against the Tower 22 military base in Jordan.
Between October 2023 and November 2024: Iran and its proxies conducted more than 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounding more than 180 U.S. service members and killing three service members.
November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump.
June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@carpediem
Just a few others? Why don't you give us the whole list starting from 1960 when US service members started getting killed in Vietnam? 400 Nebraskans died in the Vietnam War. There is no way in hell could a Vietcong have an excuse to make his way to Nebraska to killed Americans.
Really? Who do you think assassinated President John Kennedy? Don't regurgitate the shit you have been fed.
Why are we in Syria and Iraq? Seems to me that you are a guy who would go into your neighbor's house, mess with his wife, and don't expect to get whacked. What kind of a crazy dog are you, Carpediem?
God bless that US service members who were killed. Lest anyone forget, here are a few others:
Just a few others? Why don't you give us the whole list starting from 1960 when US service members started getting killed in Vietnam? 400 Nebraskans died in the Vietnam War. There is no way in hell could a Vietcong have an excuse to make his way to Nebraska to killed Americans.
November 2024: An Iranian national and IRGC asset was charged for plotting to assassinate President Trump.
Really? Who do you think assassinated President John Kennedy? Don't regurgitate the shit you have been fed.
June 2025: Iran-backed militias attacked at least three U.S. bases in Syria and two U.S. bases in Iraq.
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Why are we in Syria and Iraq? Seems to me that you are a guy who would go into your neighbor's house, mess with his wife, and don't expect to get whacked. What kind of a crazy dog are you, Carpediem?
WestonTexan · 18-21, M
I'm reminded of a satirical quote by a tyrannical king in a movie: "someone of you may die, but it's a risk I'm willing to take".
Those at the top who most support this conflict are never the ones at risk, it's those they had stationed there, despite the fact that in this case Iran made its intentions to attack American bases if attacked multiple times. It should not have been a surprise to anyone.
Now Western governments are scrambling to evacuate bases, embassies, and help tourists and expats leave these places, as if they had no idea what the repercussions would be of starting this conflict.
It's never the people who push for bloodshed the most who are actually making the sacrifices.
Those at the top who most support this conflict are never the ones at risk, it's those they had stationed there, despite the fact that in this case Iran made its intentions to attack American bases if attacked multiple times. It should not have been a surprise to anyone.
Now Western governments are scrambling to evacuate bases, embassies, and help tourists and expats leave these places, as if they had no idea what the repercussions would be of starting this conflict.
It's never the people who push for bloodshed the most who are actually making the sacrifices.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@WestonTexan Completely agree. Lets send Bibi to the front line since this is his war.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@WestonTexan
You are a young guy, @WestonTexan get serious and take back your country. I don't know how you are going to do it safely. Even if you do nothing more than ask God for help in your heart, that's enough.
It's never the people who push for bloodshed the most who are actually making the sacrifices.
You are a young guy, @WestonTexan get serious and take back your country. I don't know how you are going to do it safely. Even if you do nothing more than ask God for help in your heart, that's enough.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
I suspect Iran used one of their propeller driven drones. They are made of wood and styrofoam and pack a hefty warhead. Very hard to detect but deadly. The same were used on the radar sites that the US installed around the Middle East. The radar cost almost 1.5 billion dollars and were removed by drones that cost 1000 dollars. Not a good trade.
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BohoBabe · M
Good. Trump is an illegitimate president, the military could have refused to serve his admin. I have no sympathy for anyone knowingly enabling Fascism.
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