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HoeBag · 51-55, F
How is it even possible to tell which way the wheels were facing from a blurry photo like that? It looks like the wheels were straight.

I am not taking sides, just seems funny how people can draw solid conclusions from blurry photos at a distance.

It is sometimes like when they look at a bank security video and say, "Yep, in this still, we can clearly see it was in fact John Smith!" Like really now? 🤨

HoeBag · 51-55, F
@GermanAf I do not personally agree with how ICE nor trump is handling things. BUT, there isn't anything that can really be done about it. Whether someone agrees with trump's actions or not, one thing is for sure - he is NOT f*cking around. For whatever reason, no one in power is willing to stand up to the SOB, what good can citizens even do? Vote? Cite our constitution? Those things don't mean jack squat in modern America.

@JimboSaturn I guess even if someone is basically powerless, eventually their anger would take over. I kind of have my own reasons for feeling like, "Oh well", but I would rather not get into that on the open forum.
GermanAf · 26-30, M
@HoeBag So you do nothing and hope it works out? That's what about 40% of America did in the last election.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
@HoeBag Whether the wheels are straight or turned the vehicle is very obviously pointed in the opposite direction from the ICE clown.

JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
That's exactly what I was just saying in another post. Her wheels were turned right, trying to drive down the rooad. Some user said they were facing the officer but that was when she was backing up. She then put the car in forward and tried to turn right.
Northwest · M
If you watch the eye witness interview, it seems as if the murder victim was trying to drive away, as instructed by ICE, but the ICE people were acting like a bunch of untrained people with guns, and while complying with instructions to drive away (as evidenced by the wheels turned right), some other ICE decided she needs to be murdered.

When she got shot, her body weight on the accelerator (dead weight), caused the car to go out of control, and crash into a parked car.

Murder.
Renee Nicole Good was pulling a K-turn; only a fool or a completely untrained officer would step in front of a car pulling a K-turn.

The ICE thug didn't begin firing his weapon until he was out of the path of the vehicle. He was SAFE. He shot a fleeing "suspect." That's in direct contravention of ICE rules, not to mention common sense.

Here's the 110 page ICE Firearms and Use of Force Handbook
https://imlive.s3.amazonaws.com/Federal%20Government/ID255426897069329047495080324203699905714/2.2.1_Attachment%2021%20-%20ICE%20Firearms%20and%20Use%20of%20Force%20Directive%20and%20Handbook.pdf

Page 12 includes the following:
4) Deadly force is not authorized solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect. Deadly force against a fleeing subject is only authorized if there is probable cause to believe that the escape of the suspect would pose an imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or another person.

Also, Department of Homeland Security (DHS) guidance—specifically, 2014 ICE/Border Patrol use-of-force policies—
“It should be recognized that a half-ounce (200-grain) bullet is unlikely to stop a 4,000-pound moving vehicle, and if the driver … is disabled by a bullet, the vehicle will become a totally unguided threat,” it says. “Obviously, shooting at a moving vehicle can pose a risk to bystanders including other agents.”
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-killings-20140227-story.html
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues Thanks for posting this. I hope everyone reads it.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
If an "act of domestic terrorism" was being carried out right in front of trained agents why did the others not bother to draw their weapons even after shots were fired?
GermanAf · 26-30, M
@MoveAlong To be fair, they did point rifles at bystanders trying to render aid!
romell · 51-55, M
Even if one takes the ice version she was trying to run him down ..why shoot thrice . That's to make sure a person is dead not self defence
You expect ICE agents to be able to tell their right from their left?

That would be beyond their qualifications.😂
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Truth is the second casualty here.. Cloud the issue with BS and create doubt. Trump 101.. 😷
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romell · 51-55, M
@JimboSaturn you mean trump sanchez

 
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