SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
I don't know anyone who is being deported.
Maybe people aren't up in arms because they know damn well they are here illegally and there is nothing to be done.
In addition, they organize and start making that public, what stops ICE from showing up and arresting them all?
Do you really want to assist ICE in being more efficient?
Maybe people aren't up in arms because they know damn well they are here illegally and there is nothing to be done.
In addition, they organize and start making that public, what stops ICE from showing up and arresting them all?
Do you really want to assist ICE in being more efficient?
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@MoveAlong I don't know what you are talking about. I believe you misread or misinterpreted my reply. I never accused you of either of these things:
ICE is not a political tool of the President. They don't report to him directly. Your interpretation of Lewandowski's "threat" is overblown and partisan.
My belief is you are beholden to left wing propaganda and struggle to communicate outside that parameter.
Please show me where I have ever said ICE mission is illegal. Please show me where I have ever said Illegal immigrants should not be removed from the country
ICE is not a political tool of the President. They don't report to him directly. Your interpretation of Lewandowski's "threat" is overblown and partisan.
My belief is you are beholden to left wing propaganda and struggle to communicate outside that parameter.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@MoveAlong We can disagree, it's not a problem.
I just appreciate people representing what I am saying accurately and not playing silly games.
Thanks for your time.
I just appreciate people representing what I am saying accurately and not playing silly games.
Thanks for your time.
BizSuitStacy · M
I don't know anyone that's been deported. I don't even know anyone who knows anyone that was deported.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@BizSuitStacy Oh well, I guess it's just not happening then.
BizSuitStacy · M
@MoveAlong Oh...it's happening. Heck...1.6 million have self deported. About 40 million to go. And Chucky is gonna "shut down the gubbermint" if tax payers don't pony up $1.5 trillion to pay for illegal's health care.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@BizSuitStacy Example of MAGAt ignorance. Do you really believe that 1.5T number your barfed up?
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JSul3 · 70-79
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"....national emergency and foreign invasion of 20 million+ criminal immigrants."
Entering the US illegally is a misdemeanor, not a felony.
Data from July 2025 shows that approximately 65-72% of people in ICE detention have no criminal convictions, with figures ranging from 65% for book-ins (people processed into the system) and 71% for those held in detention. Reports from sources like the Cato Institute and Newsweek show figures that confirm this trend, with many of those who do have convictions having only minor offenses such as traffic violations.
So, why isn't arresting the worst of the worst....like drug dealers and murderers?
Why focus on day laborers and folks that have been here for years, working and paying taxes? Why arrest those who are appearing in court to get their cases heard by a judge?
These folks should be given an immediate green card and road to citizenship.
The system is broken because those who entered are not being processed and their cases heard because we do not have enough judges to work the enormous back log.
Nobody says that major criminals should not be arrested, jailed or deported......but EVERYONE must be given due process.
That's the law.
Trump is not arresting the worst of the worst.
"....national emergency and foreign invasion of 20 million+ criminal immigrants."
Entering the US illegally is a misdemeanor, not a felony.
Data from July 2025 shows that approximately 65-72% of people in ICE detention have no criminal convictions, with figures ranging from 65% for book-ins (people processed into the system) and 71% for those held in detention. Reports from sources like the Cato Institute and Newsweek show figures that confirm this trend, with many of those who do have convictions having only minor offenses such as traffic violations.
So, why isn't arresting the worst of the worst....like drug dealers and murderers?
Why focus on day laborers and folks that have been here for years, working and paying taxes? Why arrest those who are appearing in court to get their cases heard by a judge?
These folks should be given an immediate green card and road to citizenship.
The system is broken because those who entered are not being processed and their cases heard because we do not have enough judges to work the enormous back log.
Nobody says that major criminals should not be arrested, jailed or deported......but EVERYONE must be given due process.
That's the law.
Trump is not arresting the worst of the worst.
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KunsanVeteran · M
There is another “No King’s Protest” scheduled for mid October—that would be a great opportunity to rally!
To paraphrase a famous quote:
“All that is necessary for the voices of fascism to take over our country is for the good law abiding men and women to do nothing!”
To paraphrase a famous quote:
“All that is necessary for the voices of fascism to take over our country is for the good law abiding men and women to do nothing!”
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MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@AthrillatheHunt I wasn't talking to you then.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@MoveAlong I have friends who are documented immigrants , including my ex wife . I must have misread your post
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
Explain to me why an illegal here get due process and enjoy the full extent of our legal system when they didn’t do their “DUE PROCESS” to get here in the first place?
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@Prison1203 Part A has no bearing on part B
JSul3 · 70-79
@Prison1203 Are you sure? Have you personally reviewed every one of their cases? Do you know their current status? Are they in the process of an asylum claim? Are they in the process of having a hearing before a judge?
Neither you nor I or anyone else can speak for any of these folks.
They each have their own circumstance and should be heard.
They get due process because it's the law. Even YOU get due process.
Now....imagine YOU have a dark complexion.... you're going about your business on the street, and suddenly, you're taken down by masked ICE thugs, cuffed and hauled away to who knows where.
Why? Because they saw your skin tone and decided YOU were an illegal. You were their target.
You try to tell them you are a US citizen! They ignore you. Off you go. Will your family know where you are?
They have said they are targeting people because of how they look!
They are not looking for the worst of the worst. They are sweeping up anyone who looks like "the other."
They have a quota to reach, and if you have the wrong skin tone, you're a target.....US citizen or not, it does not matter to them.
Is this what you want?
Neither you nor I or anyone else can speak for any of these folks.
They each have their own circumstance and should be heard.
They get due process because it's the law. Even YOU get due process.
Now....imagine YOU have a dark complexion.... you're going about your business on the street, and suddenly, you're taken down by masked ICE thugs, cuffed and hauled away to who knows where.
Why? Because they saw your skin tone and decided YOU were an illegal. You were their target.
You try to tell them you are a US citizen! They ignore you. Off you go. Will your family know where you are?
They have said they are targeting people because of how they look!
They are not looking for the worst of the worst. They are sweeping up anyone who looks like "the other."
They have a quota to reach, and if you have the wrong skin tone, you're a target.....US citizen or not, it does not matter to them.
Is this what you want?
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@Prison1203Supreme Court precedent: Landmark Supreme Court decisions, including Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886) and Plyler v. Doe (1982), have established that constitutional protections extend to all people on U.S. soil, regardless of immigration status.
Zadvydas v. Davis (2001): The Court held that "the Due Process Clause applies to all 'persons' within the United States, including aliens, whether their presence here is lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent".
Zadvydas v. Davis (2001): The Court held that "the Due Process Clause applies to all 'persons' within the United States, including aliens, whether their presence here is lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent".
What is it about the word "ILLEGAL" you don't understand?
pdockal · 56-60, M
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@MoveAlong I’m very much pro constitution . Many believe the last administration let in so many people on purpose that due process would be impossible . It’s a sound strategy if you ask me
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
If they came into your home uninvited, what would you do???
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@MoveAlong what county do you live in???
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Jake966 · 56-60, M
Undocumented workers aren’t entitled to due process
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